Bloodlines Mailing List archives March 16-23, 1997
from the John Stewart email list
some intro's and the usual chat- REB
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Subj: Re: Dinner (yum, yum)
Date: 97-03-16
From: PFARNAM@aol.com
I'll find a good place, and I am interested
Patrick
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Subj: Seattle, Mister?
Date: 97-03-16
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
Got the check. That's a pretty slick process there. How does it work? Your
badge is in the mail.
Michelle
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Subj: Re: Slick Process
Date: 97-03-17
From: PFARNAM@aol.com
Hi Michelle,
It's called Quicken 6.0, bank at home. Quicken, in partnership with my
bank, allows me to download my statement at will, to transfer between
accounts, and to write checks all online. I've had it for over a year now,
and I still get a kick out of paying my bills online. It's GREAT! Check it
out. Quicken is a great accounting system for personal use anyway, and the
Bank At Home feature is wonderful.
I'm looking forward to my badge arriving in time for McCabe's. Tomorrow, St.
Patrick's Day, I'll treat myself to tickets for both shows. See you online.
Patrick
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Subj: Re: Seattle, Mister?
Date: 97-03-16
From: Paul4500@aol.com
Reminder:
Tickets for the two shows April 5 at McCabe's in Santa Monica, go on sale
Monday (3-17).
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Subj: Omaha Rainbow Magazine
Date: 97-03-16
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
Hi
I have still not managed to locate copies of issues 1 and 2 of Omaha
Rainbow. If anybody out there has got them and could let me have a
copy I would be most grateful.
Bob Elliot
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http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk./~slowcoach/basement/bobs.html
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Subj: Update: John Stewart UK Fan Page
Date: 97-03-16
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
Hi
I have updated the Omaha Rainbow section of my site. Issue 7 (John
Stewart content) now online.
I thought it was a good idea to publish the John Stewart content of
Omaha Rainbow Magazine on the Web but, unfortunately, I have had very
little response.
It takes a long time to scan these pages and then convert them into
text, so please let me know if you think it is worthwhile or not.
Your comments are most appreciated.
Bob Elliot
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Subj: Re: Update: John Stewart UK Fan Page
Date: 97-03-16
From: gbrother@dash.com (George Brother)
Yes, your posting of the Omaha Rainbow is appreciated. I know how much
work it can be as I also have to scan in pages and convert them to text.
I know the process can be tedious.
thanks for you efforts,
George
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Subj: Re: Update: John Stewart UK Fan Page
Date: 97-03-16
From: donfish@sttl.uswest.net (D&L Ruiz/Peeveyroo)
Yes, Bob, I've been reading every word of the Omaha Rainbow content on your
site. My fault for not taking the time to thank you before now.
And while I'm at it, I'm mightly grateful for all the Stewart websites that
have been popping up. Each serves a little bit of a different niche for me,
but I visit them all fairly regularly. Your's, and now John's, are welcome
additions. -- Don
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Subj: Re: JS Web Site
Date: 97-03-17
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
At 12:37 AM 3/15/97 -0500, Netennis@aol.com wrote:
>I tried the new site and couldn't get through. Is this the correct address?
> Http://www.best.com/~jcstew/
>When I try it I get a message about not being being able parse and about it
>not being formed properly.
>
>Gordon Kent
>
I just looked it up and it worked like a charm....just cut and paste the URL
to be sure :)))
Nancy
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Subj: Re: UK pages updates
Date: 97-03-17
From: cwoodward@ucflink.com (Charlie Woodward)
Let me join in appreciation of your work, Bob.
I had always heard of Omaha Rainbow but never
had the opportunity to read any of it before.
Thanks to all of you who take the time to do the
John Stewart websites. It's great to be able to keep
up on what's going on.
Oh, and John: The check's in the mail for the coffee
mug and the Darwin's Army T-shirt.
Charlie
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Subj: Re: Update: John Stewart UK Fan Page
Date: 97-03-17
From: ray.butler@dial.pipex.com (Ray Butler)
Bob Elliot wrote:
> It takes a long time to scan these pages and then convert them into
> text, so please let me know if you think it is worthwhile or not.
Don't worry - It's *extremely* worthwhile I for one am very grateful & if I
can help in any way (sorry I don't have issues 1 & 2 either, so make that
any other way) please let me know.
> Your comments are most appreciated.
And so are your efforts. Now, has anyone got the ZigZag review of "California
Bloodlines" ...?
Ray Butler
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Subj: Re[2]: UK pages updates
Date: 97-03-17
From: Dan_Hodges@usccmail.lehman.com (Dan Hodges)
Bob, let me add my thanks. I really enjoy having access to the OR articles
and
look forward to more.
Dan H.
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Subj: Re: UK pages updates
Date: 97-03-17
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
Hi Charlie
Many thanks for your comments
Bob Elliot
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Subj: Re: Update: John Stewart UK Fan Page
Date: 97-03-17
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
> And so are your efforts. Now, has anyone got the ZigZag review of
>"California Bloodlines" ...?
>
> Ray Butler
>
Thanks Ray
Don't worry I am working on getting the relevant copies of ZigZag. I
know a guy who has got most of them.
If you or anyone else out there knows which issues of ZigZag featured
John please let me know; it would save scouring them all.
By the way (or should that be BTW), the editor of Omaha Rainbow
(Peter O'Brien) phoned me today (Peter O'Brien phoned ME!!) and said
he would send me issues 1 and 2.
Thanks
Bob Elliot
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http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk./~slowcoach/basement/bobs.html
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Subj: John Stewart UK Fan Page
Date: 97-03-17
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
Thanks for all your kind comments re my website.
Sorry if my previous posting to this list sounded a little abrupt but
the fact is, I don't want to be posting information that (a) people
have already got or (b) may not be of interest. The only way that
Webmasters (sorry Michelle, should that be Webmistresses or
Webpersons) know if their site is of interest is by feedback from the
viewers.
I'd like to hear from you if there is something you either like or
dislike about the site, or if you feel you could make a contribution
to the content.
I am just pleased that I can contribute something relating to my
favourite singer/songwriter. There is a lot of garbage out there on
the Web and it is great to see sites like Ron's, Michelle's,
Wonderdog's and John's own site. The great thing is, they are all
about the same guy but are all different.
Sorry to waffle on so much. I'll continue to keep everyone posted
when I update my site; including Omaha Rainbow (and, hopefully
ZigZag).
Cheers
Bob Elliot
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Subj: Re: Update: John Stewart UK Fan Page
Date: 97-03-18
From: martyn@nyx.nwnet.co.uk (Martyn Emerson)
Bob,
Just felt duty-bound to join on the vote of thanks for your noble efforts,
even though I'm a bit late.
My ZigZag collection only runs from #25 through to #100, with one or two
that have regrettably gone AWOL over the years. But I'd be happy to scour
through I those I have, if it would help you out. Not such an onerous
task, since the old fogeys versus new punks wars ended in total victory for
the latter element round about ZZ70.
Off the top of my head I can still remember that the 'review' of California
Bloodlines Ray referred to is at the back end of ZZ38, from Jan 74. (I'm
assuming you mean the four-page Pete Frame "Ten Greatest Albums of The
Century" piece, Ray. But I seem to remember the mag started up in 69, so I
guess it could have gotten a contemporary review in a very early issue.)
Also, as I was reminded of by one of OR pieces you've got up already, there
is a lengthy Peter O'Brien piece in ZZ42. Unfortunately this is one of
those lost in action. Dontcha hate it when you trust people with
irreplaceable artifacts, only to have your trust betrayed?
I'd trust you my ZZ38 original, though, should you have any difficulties
locating it, and a photocopy wouldn't scan acceptably.
Thanks again.
Martyn
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Subj: JS in Beantown
Date: 97-03-18
From: RoyFritz@CompuServe.COM (Roy Fritz)
Greetings to all 'Stewartistas' (Michelle seems to prefer that over 'Flamingoheads')
She said I should introduce myself so ---
I'm about 4 years younger than Johnny Flamingo and live in New England
(US), specifically Barrington RI. For those of you with maps big enough to show
Rhode Island, I'm between Providence and Newport. (Yes the folk festival is great -
it we could get the Big Guy there it would be better - everybody write Ben & Jerry)
I'm a systems analyst for the Monet Jewelry Group here in RI. I 'learned to
play guitar by listening to Kingston Trio records' . I first discovered JS on the KT
Closeup album and was greatly relieved that they would continue without
Dave Guard. Actually, I believe I've seen the Kingston trio in ALL of it's incarnations
including the 'New' KT that Bob Shane tries to deny. I learned that Bob is the
biggest influence on the KT sound and John - well he's just himself, and that's more
than enough. I've been lucky enough to acquire copies of all of John's US albums and
tapes (anybody wants a tape of Signals Through the Glass let me know). I also have
a Bandera tape and an early copy (different cover) of Rocket Roy (with a JS autograph
to'Rocket Roy".) The Bandera tape was one John made to take to Scotland where the
band recording was made. (Dave's right - the band was great but John's 'demo' version
is as good, just different)
I was lucky enough to attend one of John's workshops a couple of years ago at
Penn State - I recommend it for anyone who needs a jolt to their creativity - It works.
I started painting again after about 5 years.
Enough already - Is anybody else out there planning to see John in Boston
on April 11th (I'd love to go to McCabes but it is just a bit of a hike). According to the
guy at Club Passim advanced sales for John's show have been pretty good. If you're
going, the club is below the Globe Bookstore 47 Palmer St Cambridge. It's right in the
heart of Haavaad (that's how we say Harvard in New England). The club is Alcohol and
Smoke free, but we can get a beer across the street. I must say, Harvard students are
looking awfully young lately. I'll be bringing 2 or 3 people so maybe we can get together
for some Flamingo-ness.
Roy Fritz
Barrington RI
E-Mail royfritz@compuserve.com
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Subj: Untitled
Date: 97-03-19
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
Dear bloodlines@world.std.com,
New website address. http://www.john-stewart.com
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-03-19
From: MARGIE104@aol.com
I jsut checked out that new (I think) web site.
Interesting...a little hard to read with the yellow on yellow but interesting.
After everyone else has a chance to see it, let me know if you think "Helga"
was the inspiration for one of my favorite songs......."Rollin' Golden Belly".
Bye for now!
Margie
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Subj: 30 Years On
Date: 97-03-19
From: CLYTN4@aol.com
Hi all
Its taken me about six months to do this, my first posting to the list. Just
waiting 'til I had something to say.....hope some of you think it was worth
the wait !
The time is 1 a.m. here in England and I've just returned home from the
Monkees' first (of two) sold out 30th anniversary concert at London's Wembley
Arena.
Highlight of an excellent show was the closing number, pre-encores. Yup,
Daydream Believer. 9,000 people in the audience singing along at top volume,
word perfect. They may have been happy rather than funky.....but who really
cares ? Michael Nesmith and co also paid generous tribute to John and the
other songwriters who wrote the group's 1960s hits. Long may the song
continue to pay the rent.
Bloodliners will, I'm sure, be interested to know that the Monkees have
played at all the UK's major cities this time round and there is a new hits
compilation CD/MC which of course contains Daydream Believer and is already
in the UK top 30 album chart.
I know its late, but I can't right now name any other chart band from the
mid-sixties who are still performing together, with all the original members.
Like the man says, Listen to the Band
Johnny C
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Subj: Re: KT Influence
Date: 97-03-19
From: PeterB1103@aol.com
Since John has been my favorite songwriter and performer, bar none, for
almost 30 years, I am amazed at how the discussions in this space have
enriched my own enjoyment and understanding of the music I already knew so
well (or thought I did). I agree that with effort--meaning concentration and
repeated listening, not hard work--you can always find more in even the most
familiar JS lyrics. Isn't that what defines great art? You can look at a
truly great painting for the 1,000th time and find new meaning and
inspiration. It endures, it never exhausts the viewer, and it continues to
educate. There is nothing dated or stale about "Earth Rider", or "Wild Horse
Road", or "Anna on a Memory" or "Josie."
Someone commented also, some time ago, about how the brilliance of John's
lyrics might cause a casual listener to overlook the crafting of the songs.
They endure because they are put together just right--perfect marriages of
lyrics to melody. You can listen to "Dreamers on the Rise" or "Cheyenne" or
"You Can't Look Back" any number of times and never get tired of them. I
can't think of another writer about whom that can be said.
Finally--Whoever recently recommended Norma Waterson's album--and said it had
the "feel" of a John Stewart album although the music was very different from
John's--was absolutely right. It's marvelous. In that same vein, you might
want to check out "Unreal City" by Elliott Murphy--harder-edged than John's
music but, like John's, a compelling blend of nostalgia, occasional despair,
and wide-eyed wonderment (kind of like Paul Simon's "Boy in the Bubble").
Sorry this is so long. Regards to all.
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Subj: Fwd: Re: KT Influence
Date: 97-03-20
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
Thank you for the very kind words.
JS
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Subj: Re: Elliot Murphy
Date: 97-03-20
From: Susan1136@aol.com
One small question: Is the musician in question the same Elliot Murphy of
the long blond hair? If so, he drove his car up onto the side walk and
almost ran me (and a few other friends) over, in front of Max's Kansas City.
He wasn't playing that night; just showing off. Yikes....it's hard to
believe how long ago that was!
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Subj: Re: 30 Years On
Date: 97-03-20
From: donfish@sttl.uswest.net (D&L Ruiz/Peeveyroo)
> I know its late, but I can't right now name any other chart band from the
> mid-sixties who are still performing together, with all the original
members.
The one, the only and the original Four Tops -- Levi, OB, Duke and Larry --
have performed continuously without personnel change for 40 years.
I know this because I may be the only person on planet Earth whose two
favorite music makers of all time are John Stewart and the Four Tops.
As odd a pairing as that might seem, they did intersect briefly. The Four Tops
are among the many acts who have recorded ``Daydream Believer.'' They also
sang ``happy'' rather than ``funky.'' Which is particularly odd, because if
ever there was a man who could sing funky, it is the incomparable Levi
Stubbs, for my money the greatest voice of the rock era.
-- Don
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Subj: Re: Seattle, Mister?
Date: 97-03-20
From: GregDenis@aol.com
In a message dated 97-03-16 19:21:17 EST, you write:
<< Got the check. That's a pretty slick process there. How does it work? Your
badge is in the mail.
Michelle
>>
Michelle --
It works like this: Merle sends in the money. I owe him and will reimburse
him in cash or beers, whichever comes first, when we journey northward to
McCabe's on 4/5. Thanks for the button and the newsgroup. Great stuff.
-- Greg
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Subj: Re: Elliot Murphy
Date: 97-03-20
From: PeterB1103@aol.com
Same guy. In fact, "Unreal City" contains a song about Max's Kansas City. I
had no idea he used to try to run people over, and hope that--at age, what,
45 or 50?--he's stopped doing that.
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Subj: Re: KT Influence
Date: 97-03-20
From: PeterB1103@aol.com
Thank YOU, John, for not only continuing to give us great music through all
these years, but also for participating in these conversations. It means a
lot to a great many people.
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Subj: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-20
From: RoyFritz@compuserve.com (Roy Fritz)
In the never ending quest for enlightenment and a really tasty fat free
snack.
(angelbravo can answer this if so inclined).
Everybody else - Where is 'the other side of the wind'?
25 words or less - prizes will not be awarded - neatness counts, spelling
does not.
This should start some discussion.
Roy Fritz
Barrington RI
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Subj: Re: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-20
From: cnewton@fyi.net (Christopher Newton)
....And who, or what, is Jack?
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Subj: Question of the week
Date: 97-03-21
From: tae69@dial.pipex.com (Mark Austin)
1) I think that the other side of the wind is located by the second star
on the right and straight on till morning.
2) I thought everyone knew that Jack was Jill's brother.
--
Mark
Sorry about this. Spending too much time with my 3 year old and not
enough time with the CD player!
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Subj: Re[2]: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-21
From: kbiermann@ccmail.viewlogic.com
I believe Jack is Kennedy. Although John may disagree, I think that
people who ask "where is the other side of the wind" have never been
to Cambridge MA.
-Ken
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Subj: No Subject
Date: 97-03-21
From: jwj@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU (jim johnson)
What's the speed of dark?
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Subj: Re: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-21
From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield)
Its across the street from Kenneth Buttrey!
--Merle
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Subj: Re: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-21
From: GregDenis@aol.com
In a message dated 97-03-20 22:42:48 EST, Roy Fritz writes:
<< Where is 'the other side of the wind'? >>
Well, now, on the tape of the live show (is that one "Neon Beach?), John says
the other side of the wind is Compton, an L.A.-area city. Having been through
Compton, I would have to agree.
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Subj: Re: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-21
From: MFinleyCS@aol.com
In a message dated 97-03-20 22:42:48 EST, you write:
<< Where is 'the other side of the wind'? >>
UPwind from the person "breaking wind"? : )
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Subj: Re: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-21
From: PeterB1103@aol.com
I think that on the other side of the wind you might find memories of
Marshall, California, as it was in the sixties or seventies; or maybe a back
porch somewhere in Kansas or Illinois; or the sound E.A. Stuart driving
Sweetheart on Parade; or maybe an old man telling his son about Halley's
Comet lighting up the Kentucky sky. Seems like yesterday we were there, but
it's a long time, you know, for that kind of wind to blow.
Oops. Exceeded 25 words.
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Subj: Re[2]: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-21
From: kbiermann@ccmail.viewlogic.com
Or being on the back of a train and seeing old men in the back of the
crowd who seem to remember America being born. Or a time before we
heard the Clack clack clack....
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Subj: Re: Re[2]: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-21
From: DMotley@AOL.COM
I'll go with Compton, although Muscoy, Ca. (near San Berdoo) comes pretty
close. Jack, I believe, is a euphanism (did I spell that right) for
dinero (money).
Keep it flying,
Mott
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Subj: Re: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-22
From: JACBirch@aol.com
High as a snake in an eagle's beak.
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Subj: Re: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-23
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
>High as a snake in an eagle's beak.
Maybe the other side is where "you got to know how to hold a stogie, keeping
it dry through the wind and the rain."
Or somewhere like that.
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Subj: Update - John Stewart UK Fan Page
Date: 97-03-23
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
Omaha Rainbow Issue 8 (John Stewart content) is now on line.
Regards
Bob Elliot
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http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk./~slowcoach/basement/bobs.html
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Subj: Re: Question of the week.
Date: 97-03-23
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
The source.
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Subj: AOL Buddy Madness
Date: 97-03-23
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
As an aside from our JS focus......has anyone else experienced the downside
of the "Buddy" feature on AOL. More than once I have been ambushed by
"buddies" who I just did not expect to see at that moment. Sort of a high
tech invasion of privacy--AOL style--I Remember America--and I remember my
friends!! Bluesy out.
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