Bloodlines Mailing List archives Jan97(A) January1-3, 1997
More of the year end survey, Angelbravo asks for song requests,
and discussion of Townes Van Zandt's passing.-REB
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Subj: Re: Year-end survery
Date: 97-01-01
From: Pjhayesofc@aol.com
JOHN STEWART ALBUM I LISTENED TO MOST IN 1996:
Lonesome Picker Rides Again
NON-STEWART ALBUM I LISTENED TO MOST IN 1996:
Steve Earle: "I Feel Alright"
BEST NEW STEWART SONG FIRST HEARD IN 1996:
"Interview With An Angel"
FIVE BEST ALBUMS I HEARD/BOUGHT IN 1996:
"You?Me?Us?" - Richard Thompson
"Rough Sketches" - The Man
"I Feel Alright" - Steve Earle
"Being There" - Wilco
"A Few Small Repairs" - Shawn Colvin
and Kudos for the Warren Zevon Anthology on Rhino
FAVORITE ARTIST DISCOVERED IN 1996:
Wilco
BEST LIVE SHOW I SAW IN 1996:
Richard Thompson Band at the Warfield, San Francisco, Sept. 25
IDEAL NEW YEARS EVE CONCERT (name headliner and two opening acts):
Equal Billing: Big John, Lucinda Williams, Steve Earle
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Subj: Tues Nite chat-New Year/Old Year
Date: 97-01-01
From: ClackClack@aol.com
Well folks,
First off I want to mention for the AOL gang that the first chat of 1997 is
planned for January 7 at 6:30 Pacific. Go to People Connection or keyword
chat, click on private rooms, type in neonroad and you are there. To start
the New Year with a bang I've invited a special guest to the chat who is
looking forward to joining us. How about a real big clue- this one is easy.
She and John have danced with the tiger. Join us if you can. I plan to post a
log to the Chat Room in Clack's Cellar for the non-AOL people (and those who
miss of course). I've also added a couple new photos to the photo gallery at
the Cellar and some other odd bits. Will be adding more soon.
( http://members.aol.com/clackclack/rebeffa1.htm ).
1996 was a great year musically. Got to connect with this legion of Stewart
fans out here on the net in newsgroups, mailing lists and on AOL. 1996 saw
three Stewart web pages go up, and the Bloodlines mailing list was launched
which helps us all stay connected, stay on top of the news, get concert
reports, exchange trivia, tales, and fill-in-the-blanks. We had several fun
chats on AOL. Got Rough Sketches out on cassette. I picked up several items
missing from my collection such as Bandera and Essential John & Buffy CD's,
Teresa and Rocket Roy, and the Children of the Morning CD.(To tell the truth
the CD reminds me that it was time for the Trio to move on then). I saw three
full fledged shows in Feb, April and December, plus the Border's mini-gig.
Got to meet and talk with John & Dave and a number of Bloodliners. A good
year.
1997 starts with us looking forward to Rough Sketches on CD. Folk Opera in
the works. Trio reissues hopefully out of Germany. If we're lucky maybe a
house concert or two. I think Buffy has a CD in the works still- let us hope
that comes out. From the good songs I heard last month maybe J & B will give
us (on cassette at least) a Christmas release. Bloodlines continues to grow.
I plan to try and have a regular chat schedule on AOL. First Tuesday of each
month at 6:30 Pacific in room neonroad. That way maybe a few more of us will
be able to check in as our schedules allow.
Take care all. Ron
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Subj: Re: Year-end survery
Date: 97-01-01
From: delausa@mailbox.syr.edu (Del Lausa)
Happy New year, everyone!
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JOHN STEWART ALBUM I LISTENED TO MOST IN 1996:
On constant rotation: Neon Road, Escape to Arizona, Rocket Roy in the Real
World (which is how i know that the answer to Don's Christmas Quiz is
"Blaze and Diego")
NON-STEWART ALBUM I LISTENED TO MOST IN 1996:
Little Love Affairs--Nanci Griffith
BEST NEW STEWART SONG FIRST HEARD IN 1996:
If you mean best song *new to me* in 1996--"Comfort Me"
If you mean *first heard by anyone* in 96--"Johnny Flamingo on the Blue
Dream Road" and "Neon Road" (it's a tie)
FAVORITE ARTIST DISCOVERED IN 1996:
Richard Shindell
BEST LIVE SHOW I SAW IN 1996:
John Stewart in Chester, NY
***Peace and prosperity in 1997***
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Subj: Runaway Fool
Date: 97-01-01
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
Hi Everyone
I have just subscibed to this mailing list and this is my first post.
Does anyone know where I can get the 1974 single "Wheatfield
Lady/Runaway Fool of Love."
Runaway Fool is a studio version of the time and not the take from
the Phoenix concerts.
Happy New Year everyone
Bob Elliot (UK fan)
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Subj: Omaha Rainbow Magazine
Date: 97-01-01
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
Hi Folks
I am looking for copies of 70s magazine "Omaha Rainbow", issues 1 to
4 and issue 38.
Can you help?
Regards
Bob Elliot
==
Slowcoach Tortoise Site
http://easyweb/easynet.co.uk/~slowcoach/slow/
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Subj: A couple of questions
Date: 97-01-02
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
Stewartistas...
I received this message from the web site. Can anyone (AngelBravo?) answer
this question? I'll forward it to him, so just reply to the list.
Thanks
Michelle
>The We Five's one and only album You Were On My Mind on A&M Records circa
>1965-66 included three John Stewart compositions: Love Me Not Tomorrow,
>If I Were Alone (written with brother Mike Stewart) and the wonderful I
>Can Never Go Home Again. Did any of these ever appear on a John Stewart
>solo album? I'd be very interested in hearing Stewart's work from around
>1964 - 66 if he ever embraced the folk-rock sounds popular at that time.
>Thanks for your time. I look forward to hearing from you. John Einarson
>
Michelle Luce Stevens
http://www.concentric.net/~Ddunet/ (John Stewart Home Pages)
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Subj: Re: A couple of questions
Date: 97-01-02
From: cnewton@fyi.net (Christopher Newton)
None of the songs John Stewart wrote for We Five have appeared on any of his
solo albums.
We Five were a great group, weren't they? Wish they were still around. Bev
Bivens knocked my socks off.
Kit Newton
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Subj: Untitled
Date: 97-01-02
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
Dear bloodlines@world.std.com,
Happy New Year to all my friends on bloodlines, or in bloodlines, depending
on your visual bent.
Why don't you let me know what songs you'd like to hear in a live show.
Thanks, rage on.
Bravo
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-02
From: battery@teleport.com (battery)
In near order of desire:
You Can't Go Back To Kansas
Strange Rivers
Wheatfield Lady
Fire In The Wind
Botswana
Angels With Guns
Ticket To The Stars
Liberation Day
Keeper Of The Flame
Children Of The Morning
Grace Of Rain
Chilly Winds
Lady Came From Baltimore
The River
Monterey/Odin
Wheels Of Thunder
Queen Of Hollywood High
Lost Her In The Sun
Midnight Wind
American Way
American Nights
Women
Cody
Big Horse
Miracle Mile
Pirates Of Stone County Road
Josie
Well, they aren't in any order at all!
Mike Morgan
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-02
From: ClackClack@aol.com
In a message dated 97-01-02 , AB wrote:
> Why don't you let me know what songs you'd like to hear in a live show.
> Thanks, rage on.
> Bravo
Such an opening. I've been wanting to hear that "Rider" song. Found it on the
video and now I want to hear it more. I've also been longing for Josie.
Shoulda been a hit that one.
Ron
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Subj: No Subject
Date: 97-01-02
From: Dan_Hodges@usccmail.lehman.com (Dan Hodges)
In a message dated 96-12-30 23:49:24 EST, survey asks and I sez:
JOHN STEWART ALBUM I LISTENED TO MOST IN 1996:
Tie - Phoenix Concerts (every year) and Bandera
NON-STEWART ALBUM I LISTENED TO MOST IN 1996:
I Feel Alright -Steve Earle
BEST NEW STEWART SONG FIRST HEARD IN 1996:
Because of a Dancer
FIVE BEST ALBUMS I HEARD/BOUGHT IN 1996:
Bandera-Live at the Turf -JS
I Feel Alright -Steve Earle
Jimmy Dale Gilmore
Wallflowers (J.Dylan)
10 Song Demo- Rosanne Cash
FAVORITE ARTIST DISCOVERED IN 1996:
Wallflowers
BEST LIVE SHOW I SAW IN 1996:
John Stewart at The Turning Point - Piermont, NY (with Rosanne Cash)
IDEAL NEW YEARS EVE CONCERT (name headliner and two opening acts):
Nanci Griffith,
Rosanne Cash
John and Buffy Stewart (with DAVE of course)
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL, Dan Hodges
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Subj: songs I'd like to hear in a live show
Date: 97-01-02
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
>Dear bloodlines@world.std.com,
>Happy New Year to all my friends on bloodlines, or in bloodlines, depending
>on your visual bent.
>Why don't you let me know what songs you'd like to hear in a live show.
>Thanks, rage on.
>Bravo
Cannons in the Rain
Dreamers on the Rise
Bringin Down the Moon
Wingless Angels
Lady and the Outlaw
You Can't Go Back to Kansas
Friend of Jesus
July
Somewhere Down the Line (with marimbas*)
Midnight Wind (with traps*)
Some Kind of Love (with piano*)
*Doesn't hurt to ask, does it?
Michelle Luce Stevens
http://www.concentric.net/~Ddunet/ (John Stewart Home Pages)
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Subj: Re: Year-end survey
Date: 97-01-02
From: GriffPR@aol.com
JOHN STEWART ALBUM I LISTENED TO MOST IN 1996:
Rough Sketches
NON-STEWART ALBUM LISTENED TO MOST IN 1996:
Peter Rowan/Jerry Douglas -- Yonder
BEST NEW STEWART SONG FIRST HEARD IN 1996:
Johnny Flamingo on the Blue Dream Road
FIVE BEST ALBUMS I HEARD/BOUGHT IN 1996:
Rough Sketches
Bandera
Cox Family -- Beyond the City
Peter Rowan/Jerry Douglas -- Yonder
Bela Fleck/V.M. Bhatt -- Tabula Rasa
FAVORITE ARTIST DISCOVERED IN 1996:
Peter Rowan
BEST LIVE SHOWS I SAW IN 1996:
John Stewart at the Abbey Pub, Chicago
Runnerups (tie):
Jimmie Dale Gilmore at Fitzgerald's, Chicago
Anne Hills, Utah Phillips, Thom Bishop, Molly & the Tinker at WFMT, Chicago
IDEAL NEW YEARS EVE CONCERT (name headliner and two opening acts)
John Stewart (who else?) with Alison Krauss and Jimmie Dale Gilmore opening
Happy New Year to All!
Dick Griffith
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-02
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
> Happy New Year to all my friends on bloodlines, or in bloodlines, depending
> on your visual bent.
> Why don't you let me know what songs you'd like to hear in a live show.
> Thanks, rage on.
> Bravo
Well, here goes
Runaway Fool
Strange Rivers
All Time Woman
Cooler Water, Higher Ground
Rivers of Light
Chilly Winds
Shadows of The Angel's Wings
Eyes of Sweet Virginia
Lady of Fame
Moon River
Lady & The Outlaw
Promise The Wind
July
Shrunken Head Boogie
California Bloodlines
& many more
Bob Elliot (UK)
==
Slowcoach Tortoise Site
http://easyweb/easynet.co.uk/~slowcoach/slow/
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-02
From: PeterB1103@aol.com
John--For what it's worth, I'd like to hear, at a live show, some of these
songs that might not get so much attention anymore (but boy, they wear
well)--
Anna on a Memory
Shackles & Chains
Rocks & Blues
All the Desperate Men
Back in Pomona
...and of course a few I've heard a thousand times but could easily stand to
hear another thousand times--
Dreamers on the Rise
The Runner
July
and perhaps the greatest song in the history of vinyl, "Mother Country"
Happy new year to everyone--Peter
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Subj: Mother Country
Date: 97-01-02
From: Ddumail@aol.com
Peter's post about "Mother Country" reminds me of the first time I had seen
John in concert. (Actually it was the first time I'd ever heard of him too,
but that's ANOTHER story altogether).
Anyway, another clueless friend and I are at a JS concert in Denver. John and
"Dave" have been playing some great songs and we are informed that JS wrote
"Daydream Believer" and "Gold". "OK", I thought, "that puts things into some
perspective". I mentally transport myself back to junior high for a moment,
and then return to the concert.
Then Dave starts this bass line and about 2 bars into it, I hear all these
whoops and hollers, mostly from the over 45 male part of the audience. John
starts to say the introduction and everyone in the room was sayin it with
him! "There was a story in the San Francisco Chronicle that of course I forgot
to save..."
Me and my buddy are looking around us, incredulously. What IS this? They know
what he's gonna say before he says it. Incredible, I thought. Until later
that week when I knew all the words to that song/story too. Ahem.
Michelle, your friendly Bloodlines mailing list manager and webmistress
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Subj: Re: Mother Country
Date: 97-01-02
From: insman@citynet.net (Ron Fleshman)
AND, I remember a review of that song in , say, 1969 and the reviewer
said, "with proper promotion, this would be the number one song in the
country (or something like that)." Sad, but true. I just hope that
before I die, I can hear JS in concert.
Ron
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Subj: RE: Untitled
Date: 97-01-02
From: don-fish@msn.com (D&FR/ Peeveyroo)
Why don't you let me know what songs you'd like to hear in a live show.
Thanks, rage on.
Bravo
ROAD AWAY: Classic Stewart. One of the great road songs ever written. And
I've never heard it performed live.
REVEREND MR. BLACK: When I was a little boy I fell in love with this song and
especially the voice on that record. About 10 years later I heard my first
John Stewart album. About five years later I finally figured it out.
-- Don/Peeveyroo
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Subj: Re: A couple of questions
Date: 97-01-02
From: MButters@aol.com
By the way, the first two We Five albums are now available from Collector's
Choice, on CD.
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Subj: Muckee Truckee River
Date: 97-01-02
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
I guess the Truckee River is REALLY "muckee" tonight! Hope y'all in the
Pacific are stayin high and dry!
Michelle Luce Stevens
http://www.concentric.net/~Ddunet/ (John Stewart Home Pages)
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-02
From: MButters@aol.com
Anna On A Memory
Little Road and A Stone To Roll
Wild Horse Medley
Those Who Are Wise
Chilly Winds with Nick and Bob (aka The Bobbettes)
Nebraska Widow
I Remember America
July, You're A Hooker (sorry, couldn't help it -- but I really love that
song, and prefer
the Signals version -- and the Neon version -- to the Bloodlines version,
which is
good, but... I guess it's the banjo in the fade on Signals, or something)
One More Town
Pirates, of Course
Because of A Dancer
Botswanna
The Escape of Old John Webb, with the banjo
A couple of things by songwriters you like, other than Lady/Baltimore,
especially some interesting choices -- classic stuff with lots of shelf
life, etc.
Anything with Buffy
Ditto, Dave and Buffy
Whatever you're working on now
Whatever you're working on next
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-02
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
July, She Believes In Me, Chilly Winds, Mother Country, Cody, Pirates,
Lonesome Picker, Josie, Some kind of Love, Teresa, Lily and Joe, Across the
Milky Way, Crows Landing, Looking Back Johanna, Fire In the Wind, Rock it In
Your Own Sweet Time, Wild Side of Me, One More Town, Angel Delgadillo, Neon
Road, Because of a Dancer, Botswanna, Tears of the Sun, Women, I Could Have
Been A Runner, I Remember America, Slow Dance, Liberation Day,
..............for starters
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Subj: Re: Songs
Date: 97-01-02
From: Pjhayesofc@aol.com
July You're a Woman (NOT the Signals version!), Chilly Winds, Mother Country,
Cody, Some Lonesome Picker, Fire In the Wind, Neon Road, Because of a Dancer,
Liberation Day, Never Goin' Back, Wolves in the Kitchen, Freeway Pleasure,
Shackles and Chains, Missouri Birds, Wheatfield Lady, All Time Woman, Lady
and the Outlaw, ROAD AWAY, TOUCH of the SUN, Wild Horse Road and Mazatlan
(I just got done making a 100 min. JS tape for a friend so this is pretty
easy!)
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-03
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
At 11:35 PM 1/2/97 -0500, MButters@aol.com wrote:
> good, but... I guess it's the banjo in the fade on Signals, or something)
>
>The Escape of Old John Webb, with the banjo
>Whatever you're working on now
>Whatever you're working on next
>
Mike's post made me remember a while back to about 1990, I believe. John
played at Elario's in La Jolla, CA....two shows, two nights! I was at every
one, which you may have seen me mention before. But what I remember most
about those shows was John playing the BANJO! I've seen John approximately
20-25 times since 1986, and ONLY in La Jolla have I seen him play banjo. It
was WONDERFUL....I can't remember now what tunes he played, but I just
remember that him playing the banjo just sent me into the stratosphere!
John, when you come back to Monsoon's in Flagstaff, do you think you could
please dust off the ol' banjo and pick a few for me?????
Nancy
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Subj: Re: Muckee Truckee River
Date: 97-01-03
From: GregDenis@aol.com
In a message dated 97-01-02 23:22:48 EST, Michelle writes:
<< I guess the Truckee River is REALLY "muckee" tonight! Hope y'all in the
Pacific are stayin high and dry!
>>
Yes, but do the people with all the hope still sit and smoke their dope?
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Subj: Re: Muckee Truckee River
Date: 97-01-03
From: MFinleyCS@aol.com
Got to say it was a bit of a let-down when I first listened to the new John
and Buffy CD that Buffy did not sing all the verses to "Across the Milky Way"
that John sings on "Teresa and the Lost Songs."
So, I would like to hear many of the songs others have already mentioned,
but: "Across the Milky Way" with ALL the verses!
Happy New Year to All!
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Subj: Untitled
Date: 97-01-03
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
Dear bloodlines@world.std.com,
Townes VanZandt is dead. Now all other song writers can move up one.Townes
will live on in all those great songs, only his demons are gone.
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Subj: Re: Muckee Truckee River
Date: 97-01-03 17:42:16 EST
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
>In a message dated 97-01-02 23:22:48 EST, Michelle writes:
>
><< I guess the Truckee River is REALLY "muckee" tonight! Hope y'all in the
> Pacific are stayin high and dry!
> >>
>
>Yes, but do the people with all the hope still sit and smoke their dope?
I believe that after the incident when he didn't inhale, he stopped smoking
dope.
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-03
From: JACBirch@aol.com
Is there a greater outlaw song than "Pancho and Lefty"? Townes was right up
there with John as a songwriter. Too bad so few people have ever heard of
either one.
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Subj: Songs to do live.
Date: 97-01-03
From: rcaplow@decisive.com (Randi Caplow)
I think you might have opened a floodgate, john, but I'd like to mention I
haven't heard Bad Rats in awhile!!
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Subj: Townes Gone?
Date: 97-01-03
From: Susan1136@aol.com
My God! When did this happen? I remember purchasing an lp of his back in
1974, purely on recommendation (one of only two), and acquiring most of the
rest of them over the years. I had the privilege of seeing him at several
small, smoky folk clubs in the Village during the 80s.... His voice will
surely be missed....
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Subj: Songs I'd Love To Hear
Date: 97-01-03
From: sprest02@sprynet.com (ALLMuse)
Hello AngelBravo!
Thanks for all the great music over the years. Thanks too for the chance
to help with the set list...I'd love to hear
Lilly and Joe
Somewhere Down The Line
Kansas
Spinnin of the World
Children of the Morning
Dreamers on the Rise
Cheyenne
Pilots In Blue
The River
Anytime you make it into the southeast (GA FL ALA) please consider
these!
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-03
From: tpollan@fc.net (Thomas Pollan)
At least listeners have heard them both. We will especially miss him in
Austin. He had some wonderful concerts. Hopefully John will come back
and help fill the void.
Tom Pollan
On Fri, 3 Jan 1997 JACBirch@aol.com wrote:
> Is there a greater outlaw song than "Pancho and Lefty"? Townes was right up
> there with John as a songwriter. Too bad so few people have ever heard of
> either one.
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Subj: Re: Muckee Truckee River
Date: 97-01-03
From: PopWuj@aol.com
No offense to John, but he could update the Mucky Truckee River song to "sit
and snort their coke".
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Subj: Re:" before I die...."
Date: 97-01-03
From: PopWuj@aol.com
" I just hope that before I die, I can hear JS in concert." ....wrote Ron Fleshman.
Ron, John has played at Mountain Stage in Charleston, WV on two occasions.
One was their hundredth aniversary show with John Haitt.......what a show
(though I had to hear it on the radio, catching him a couple days later in
Roanoke VA. He was to come back about a year ago but had an absess tooth, so
Andy (producer at the show) told me. You and I ought write Mountain Stage to
get them to try and book John and "Dave" again, whatdoyousay?
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Subj: Re: " before I die...."
Date: 97-01-03
From: insman@citynet.net (Ron Fleshman)
Jon:
Consider it done on this end. I missed the Mountain Stage concert
too because of an absessed tooth (talk about irony). If he comes again,
I shall go pain or not <GG>.
Good Typin' at ya,
Ron
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-03
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
John,
Please forgive my ignorance, but who was Townes VanZandt? Could you
elaborate a little for us about his career? Sorry.....I hope I'm not the
ONLY one who isn't familiar with that name.....
Thanks....
Nancy
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Subj: Re: Remembering Townes
Date: 97-01-03
From: PopWuj@aol.com
I saw Townes perform at Mt. Stage in Charleston WV. John was to have been on
the show with him. It was at great show, though John was missed by many.
I'm glad now I had the chance to see Townes play live. -Jon in WV
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Subj: Re: Untitled
Date: 97-01-03
From: delausa@mailbox.syr.edu (Del Lausa)
(Happy New year!)
Songs I'd like to hear live:
1."Comfort Me"
2."Comfort Me"
3."Comfort Me"
4. "Escape to Arizona"
5. "White Babies and Roses"
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Subj: Re: Remembering Townes
Date: 97-01-03
From: DBATTI@aol.com
Townes Van Zandt was a Texas singer songwriter who wrote great songs
including "Pancho & Lefty" (Willie recorded it). John and I did a tour in
'91 of England/Scotland/Ireland with Townes, Guy Clark, and Peter Rowan.
Townes was quite a character notorious for his drinking a little too much
before he would take the stage. Those 10-12 days on the road were
priceless...lot of fun and adventures. Each artist would play 30 to 40
minutes and then everyone would take the stage for the finale...that was the
adventure part of the gig as you never knew what songs or what keys. But
once we got the hang of it, that was the fun. Everything from "Dark as a
Dungeon" to Guy's "Tomato" song to Townes "White Freightliner Blues" to
"Sloop John B" to "Patriot Game" in Ireland to whatever song the crowd
yelled out...and they yelled until 3 AM in Roscrae, Ireland...it was a grand
tour....and I got to hang right in the middle of it....brilliant. John said
Towne's writing was "seamless". Townes wrote some the saddest, heart felt,
gut wrenching songs...he'll be missed but his music is out there.
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Subj: Re: Remembering Townes
Date: 97-01-03
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
Thanks, Dave... :))))) I do know "Pancho"...love it....I even have the
albumn on vinyl!
Nanc
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