Bloodlines Mailing List archives February 25-28, 1997
from the John Stewart email list
A new Stewart website with Omaha Rainbows!, intro's,
grammy grumbles, tribute tape and more.-REB
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Subj: Re: Orange County Venues
Date: 97-02-25
From: DMotley@aol.com
John, have "Gordoom" book you at The Coach House in San Juan Capistrano.
It is the quintessential folk club in Orange County. We would be happy to
besiege them with requests for your appearance, and even happier to pack the
place for you.
Your pal,
Mott (Keep it flyin')
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Subj: Re: Orange County Venues
Date: 97-02-25
From: Ddumail@aol.com
Mott,
Send that message to Steve Gordon at GORDOOM@aol.com ASAP!
Michelle
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Subj: Re: Orange County Venues
Date: 97-02-25
From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield)
Count me in!!!Where do I buy tickets???
Merle Stringfield
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Subj: John Stewart Website
Date: 97-02-25
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
Hi
I have just uploaded my John Stewart website. It is a little slow
but I'm working on it.
It is still heavily under construction but you may as well see what
is already there. I'm hoping to get the Omaha Rainbow page up and
running soon.
Go to Bob's Basement at
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~slowcoach/basement/bobs.html
and click on "John Stewart.
Hope you like it.
Regards
Bob Elliot
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Subj: Re: John Stewart Website
Date: 97-02-25
From: lcfoster@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (Laurie (and Bob , Katie and Matt) Foster)
Bob-nice job. Finally somebody answered my question about John's date of
birth!!!! One small thing. Perhaps it's my aging eyes, but I find the
background too busy--it makes reading the text a bit hard.
Bob Foster, San Diego
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Subj: Re: John Stewart Website
Date: 97-02-25
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
Very fine job, Bob. And thanks. The world cannot have too many Web pages
on our favorite Lonesome Picker. And it's about time the UK was represented
among these sites.
(But what a bonus: Tom Lehrer AND The Prisoner! Think I'll give Tom's TW3
album a spin.)
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Subj: Re: John Stewart Website
Date: 97-02-26
From: battery@teleport.com (Battery Express!)
Bob,
Congradulations on a well done web site! I have it bookmarked and it
will be visited regularly. Thanks for the great info you have provided,
especially the date of the PBS "Kingston Trio and Friends". I was
viewing it the other night and was wondering when it originally aired. I
also have a video of a later TV program with John and Nick hosted by Judy
Collins. Before John leads everyone in "Michael Row the Boat Ashore" he
said something to the effect: "If you don't know this one, you're not
American." It took place in San Francisco. Does anyone know the year?
Mike
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Subj: Re: John Stewart Website
Date: 97-02-26
From: ClackClack@aol.com
> It took place in San Francisco. Does anyone know the year?
>
> Mike
I'm pretty sure it was 1988. You're talking about the one that had Bobby
McFerrin in it too? It was a live broadcast. I have the broadcast date
written down somewhere but it isn't handy.
-Ron "heading off to see Bob's site"
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Subj: Re: John Stewart Website
Date: 97-02-26
From: insman@citynet.net (Ron Fleshman)
Man those are great programs. How did I miss these? Give my right arm
to see them, for sure!!
Ron
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Subj: Re: Orange County Venues
Date: 97-02-26
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
I'll drive over from Arizona in a HEARTBEAT!! Sign me UP!
Nancy
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Subj: Re: Orange County Venues
Date: 97-02-26
From: MARGIE104@aol.com
I'd come from PA in a heartbeat!!!!
Cross-country fan!
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Subj: Another Welcome to Bloodlines -Reply
Date: 97-02-26
From: jalderson@journals.uchicago.edu
Well... hello all.
I didn't realize this was a chat thing; for my birthday, I treated myself to
a copy of John's "Write from the Heart," and in the materials that came with
it was this e-mail address which said "for information about John..." Didn't
realize that there would be people out there, and have never done this sort
of thing before, but it seems harmless enough...
SO, thank you for the welcome! I am a singer and lyricist and play harmonica
a little. My day job is in scholarly publishing. I became acquainted with John
Stewart's work in1985, when I first met the man who is now my husband. He
played "Phoenix Concerts" for me and I was HOOKED -- as were all of our
friends who heard it. My husband and his 3 brothers (2 of them musicians)
have been long-time Stewart fans, so you could say I married into it.
We were convinced for years that, since we admire John so much, he must
have given up touring long ago, and we would never actually see him perform.
Imagine, then, my surprise last summer when an acquaintance told me they'd
heard on the radio that John would be playing at the Abbey Pub that night. The
spouse was out of the country at the time (bad luck for him!), but I rustled up a
friend and headed over to the show. It was a small crowd, because the Bulls
were in a playoff game, but was a breathtaking experience nonetheless. John
is a real showman. I chatted up a guy who turned out to be Dave Batty
(a true sweetheart), and he asked me if I had any requests. I asked for
"Mazatlan," and they actually PLAYED it! Also, I almost randomly bought
"Deep in the Neon," which turned out to be very similar to the show I saw that
night, so the spouse got a listen after all. It was truly a magical event from
start to finish, and it was eerie to be, for once in my life, in a roomful of people
who not only know who John is, but know more about him than I do.
Thanks again for the welcome; I think this will be fun.
--Jane Alderson
Chicago, IL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Welcome to "Bloodlines"! We are about 100 strong at this point and would love
to have a little introduction from you, so that we can get to know you.
Mail your posts and introduction to "bloodlines@world.std.com"
Don't forget to introduce yourself and let us know how you found us! We're
glad you've joined us.
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Subj: Re: Another Welcome to Bloodlines -Reply
Date: 97-02-26
From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield)
Welcome Jane!!!
All of us have tons of cool JS concert stories. It was great reading yours!
Merle Stringfield, Santee, CA
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Subj: Re: Orange County Venues
Date: 97-02-26
From: PeterB1103@aol.com
I was just going to the store for a pack of cigarettes, but I'll go to San
Juan Capistrano.
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Subj: Re: Another Welcome to Bloodlines -Reply
Date: 97-02-26
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
Welcome aboard Janie. I too, was christened with Phoenix and it is a "fav"
of many of us seasoned bloodliners. Keep tunin' in .......and talkin
JS................
Flying topcover for Stewartistas everywhere...............
Bluesy out
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Subj: Attention Must Be Paid
Date: 97-02-26
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
Watching the Grammys I could not help but dream about our man. Springsteen
picks up the Folk Award for Tom Joad. Rough Sketches was never heard--except
by a loyal few. Attention must be paid.
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Subj: Re: Attention Must Be Paid. .Always
Date: 97-02-27
From: RGodwin495@aol.com
You're so right, Bluesy
In January, I posted the same concerns regarding the Inaugural Celebration
show.
In February, its the Grammys. Of all the mediums that could use some
enrichment of soul and spirit, television keeps coming up one man short.
We, the gathered bloodliners, advocates all, must stand the course. . .
keeping the cause a far distance from the last hurrah. . .
Rickster
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Subj: Re: Another Welcome to Bloodlines
Date: 97-02-27
From: tae69@dial.pipex.com (Mark Austin)
Merle Stringfield wrote
> Welcome Jane!!!
> All of us have tons of cool JS concert stories. It was great reading yours!
Not true. I don't have one. I've never seen him live.
Boo Hoo, Sob, Sob.
Very Sad Person In England
Mark
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Subj: Re: Another Welcome to Bloodlines -Reply
Date: 97-02-27
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
>Well... hello all. < ... >
>
>Thanks again for the welcome; I think this will be fun.
>
>--Jane Alderson
>Chicago, IL
Welcome, indeed, from another Midwestern outpost of Stewartistas (well,
actually there are two of us at my office I know of ... a colleague of mine
told me of his love of John's music after I entered a snippet review of
"Punch The Big Guy" in a CD roundup for our newsletter).
Jane, it would be terrific if we could think of a way to bring John to
either Chicago or St. Louis. Does the Abbey still exist? There's a handful
of potential sites here in St. Loo ... but I'd head for your town in a
heartbeat if a concert were arranged there (never made the trek for a
Cards-Cubs game but I WOULD for a show by John ... now THAT's loyalty!).
I'm in the public relations field and could help promote it either town.
In any event, glad you're on board ... and yes, it IS fun.
Kent
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Subj: Re: Attention Must Be Paid. .Always
Date: 97-02-27
From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield)
The Grammy's can be summed up as follows:
John Stewart has none (0)
John Prine has none (0)
CS&N have none (0)
Jackson Browne has none (0)
Elvis has one (0)
Helen Reddy has nine(9)
'nough said!!
Merle M. Stringfield
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Subj: Re: Another Welcome to Bloodlines
Date: 97-02-27
From: PeterB1103@aol.com
Mark--Having spent almost my entire life in California, I've been fortunate
to see John in concert more times than I can remember. To me, the two "Neon
Videos" offered by John and Luke Stewart, "rough cut" though they may be,
capture the magic very well. (And, of course, "Phoenix Concerts" in my view
is the best live album ever made.) You can check earlier postings on this
site or, I would think, e-mail Luke c/o Angelbravo re how to get copies of
the videos. (I wonder if you'd have to have them converted to a
UK-compatible format to view them in England, however.)
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Subj: Re: Grammys
Date: 97-02-27
From: DMotley@aol.com
Merle,
Like you, I am outraged that people like John, CSN, ect. have never won a
grammy. Now Pete Seegar is a cool dude and has certainly penned his share
of remarkable tunes, but I kind of thought John's recent recording of
traditional folk songs should have at least been listed as a contender for a
grammy. I'll bet the esteemed members of the Academy never even heard, or
heard of John's recording. Who decides what recordings they get to hear
anyway? We should endeavor to find out and make sure that some of the
Academy members get a chance to hear ROUGH SKETCHES, which should be eligible
for next year's Grammys since it is due to be released soon on CD. I would
hope that FOLK ERA would make this recording available to the members of the
Academy, as well as promo copies for all relevant radio stations. Does
anyone else have thoughts about this?
"Keep it flyin' " ,
Mott
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Subj: Re: Grammys
Date: 97-02-27
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
I thought we had some "connected" members of Bloodlines who could provide
some leadership in this area. This is a call to arms!
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Subj: Re: Attention Must Be Paid. .Always
Date: 97-02-27
From: insman@citynet.net (Ron Fleshman)
Didn't Prine win one a few years ago?
Ron
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Subj: Re: Grammys
Date: 97-02-27
From: fgrittner@earthlink.net (Fred Grittner)
The Grammys are a very political event: large record companies have many
votes. Just like the Academy Awards, people vote in blocs. The recording
industry rewards commercial success with Grammys. NARAS, the organization
that runs the awards for the industry, has tried to get "hip" by
establishing a two-tier selection system. NARAS names a committee of
industry insiders and tastemakers to oversee the nominations. It is
empowered to throw out nominees, even if they garner large votes. Again,
this was in response to record companies voting in blocs for nominees: NARAS
considered the Tony Bennett Grammy's two years ago a debacle, engineered by
SONY. Thus, NARAS has a group to judge who is cool and hip and marketable to
the (young) masses. The NARAS voters are presented with a slate of of
approved nominees, virtually all from major labels.
NARAS has rewarded Ramblin Jack Elliot, who is on Red House Records, a small
label in my town of St. Paul. Pete Seeger richly deserves it for his
incredible work. IF Folk Era can publicize the Rough Sketches release and
get some good national publicity, and we hound our local reviewers to review
Rough Sketches and our stores to stock it, then JS could be positioned for a
nomination. Sadly, folk music is viewed as a niche, but conversely, that
means that the tastemakers don't worry about record sales!
SO: let' s gear up for the Long March on the Neon Road. . NARAS might have a
website, so I will do some checking.
Fred
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Subj: Re: Another Welcome to Bloodlines -Reply
Date: 97-02-27
From: griffter1@webtv.net (Dick Griffith)
Hi Jane, and welcome aboard from another Chicago Stewartista!
My wife (who also married into the Cult) and I were at that Abbey
concert...so you were the one who requested Mazatlan. We've been to
quite a few JS concerts in Chicago over the years but had never heard
him play Mazatlan...one of my all time favorites.
One thing that I remember from that concert was John periodically
stopping to allegedly listen to the Bulls game on a walkman radio.
Now that we have Bloodlines perhaps we Midwesterners can organize more
more more JS concerts in Chicago, St Louis, Faribault MN and elsewhere.
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Subj: Re: Grammys
Date: 97-02-27
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
Good Work Fred. I nominate you as the Bloodliners Point Man on this march.
Do I hear a second?
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Subj: Re: John Stewart Website
Date: 97-02-27 21:26:02 EST
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
>
> Bob-nice job. Finally somebody answered my question about John's date of
> birth!!!! One small thing. Perhaps it's my aging eyes, but I find the
> background too busy--it makes reading the text a bit hard.
>
> Bob Foster, San Diego
>
Thanks for your comments. I personally like backgrounds on web
sites. I suppose it is a matter of personal preference.
If too many people don't like it though I'll remove it.
Bob Elliot
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Subj: Yanok in Nashville
Date: 97-02-27
From: rcaplow@decisive.com (Randi Caplow)
Thanks for posting the article to the list. I have read it and sent in my
mail. The truth is I really would like to read the next installment, which I
assume will describe the actual production of Hee Haw in Nashville, so that
is what I told the editor. George is a very talented writer.
Regarding the tribute tape, since people seem to be responding favorably, how
'bout we get the show on the road. Go ahead and start recording your songs
and when you're done, send 'em to me. I'll grope my way through the
coordination of getting them compiled and duplicated; again, as long as I can
recoup my costs by people on the list buying a copy for about $3-$5. Let's
set a tentative deadline for around end of June (would that give people
enough time?), or until I have enough songs to fill a tape. If anyone wants
to volunteer to help out, please do so!
Another question. On my other list, there were a number of aspiring graphic
designers submitting competing entries for the cover design. Do we want to do
that here or do you just one one aspiring designer (like myself) to just run
with it? What we do with the cover also depends on how much we all want to
pay for the printing of it; i.e, 4-color or black and white. Thoughts
appreciated.
Thanks.
Randi Joy.
Address to mail tape to:
Randi Caplow
137 Easy St.
Mountain View, CA 94043
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Subj: Re: Another Welcome to Bloodlines -Reply
Date: 97-02-28
From: DBATTI@aol.com
Hi Jane, (and all the other newcomers who have logged on lately) welcome
aboard. Just a note to all you Midwest Stewartistas...Our fearless agent
GorDoom has booked John into Big Top Chautauqua in Bayfield, WI (northern WI
on the shores of Lake Superior) on Aug 1st...the Trio plays there the
2nd...hmmm.
Anyway, Gordoom is booking dates in the midwest around this date....The Abbey
in Chicago, Wilbert's in Cleveland, Cafe Carpe in Ft Atkinson, are definite
maybes (details hopefully being worked out), with rumors of Minneapolis,
Columbus, Cincinnati, etc...if you have an idea or venue, our favorite agent
can be reached at Gordoom@aol.com
Also John will be playing McCabe's in Santa Monica on April 5th...a little
earlier than usual. Could it be we play LA twice in '97? I'll post a
complete itinerary in a couple of days as we might have more dates definite
by then.
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Subj: Re: Grammys
Date: 97-02-28
From: fgrittner@earthlink.net (Fred Grittner)
>Good Work Fred. I nominate you as the Bloodliners Point Man on this march.
> Do I hear a second?
>
Thanks alot!
I do know an entertainment lawyer who is active in NARAS and I am sure he
could give me the inside stuff on how things are done.
Coincidentally, I was in New York City earlier in the week for a
Grammy-related function. MTV(!) sponsored the 4th annual fundraiser for
Rock the Vote, an organization that gets young people to register to vote
(and it helped pass the motor voter bill in 1993). My brother-in-law,
Patrick Lippert was the executive director. He died in 1993 and since 94
Rock the Vote has given the Lippert Memorial Award to musicians active in
politics, voter registration, etc. My wife and I have attended these events
and they are a mix of fun and amazement (seeing all the hip record company
executives trying to out-cool each other.) This year Sheryl Crow was one of
the people recoginized with the award. We met Sheryl three years ago, right
before she hit it big. She is a good person and does many good things aside
from music.
ANYWAY, the JS connection strikes again: A fellow in real estate from San
Antonio attended the party. We were talking and I mentioned JS. He went
nuts. He said he had booked JS at his college in Arizona in the 70s and JS
had given his fellow student booker his cowboy hat. Still a prized
possession. He lamented that he couldnt find JS CDs anywhere and wondered
if they were available. I told him about Homecoming and Neon Dreams and he
and his wife got very excited. SO this weekend I mail a spare copy of the
Homecoming catalog to Dan. I think Dave better get ready for a big order.
I think he is a potential bloodliner: when I said "Seattle, Mister" he
started laying down JS's rap word for word.
Anyway, I will start exploring. I think JS could (and should) be awarded a
Grammy. It may be for one album but I would view it as a lifetime
achievement award myself. (And that is how we promote JS: not just an album
but a lifetime of great music and inspired creativity.)
So long from St. Paul
Fred
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Subj: Re: Grammys
Date: 97-02-28
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
At 09:23 PM 2/27/97 -0500, Bluesy33@aol.com wrote:
>Good Work Fred. I nominate you as the Bloodliners Point Man on this march.
> Do I hear a second?
>
Duly seconded :)))
N
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Subj: Re: Attention Must Be Paid. .Always
Date: 97-02-28
From: cnewton@fyi.net (Christopher Newton)
>Didn't Prine win one a few years ago?
>
Yes.
Kit Newton
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Subj: Re: Grammys
Date: 97-02-28
From: TTillman@compuserve.com (Terry Tillman)
Hello Fred in St. Paul. Patrick Lippert was my daughter's best friend. He
was a good man. She misses him.
Terry Tillman in LA
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Subj: Re: Grammys
Date: 97-02-28
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
Good work Fred--I knew you were up to the task. America is counting on you.
By the way--do you have the e-mail address of the San Antonio realtor--I
also live in SA and would like to connect. Bluesy out.
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Subj: Re: Another Welcome to Bloodlines -Reply
Date: 97-02-28
From: MARGIE104@aol.com
Kent
I'd travel to either city also, for a chance to see John. Our loyalty also
runs deep; we've already gone to California (we live in PA) just to see a
concert. To have a concert in the midwest or on the east coast would be
fabulous!! Exposure is a wonderful thing......I firmly believe that if more
people heard him, how could they not love him?!?!
Next years Grammy's here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Margie
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Subj: New Bloodliner
Date: 97-02-28
From: MARGIE104@aol.com
Hello everyone!
I'm a Pennsylvania JS fan who has lived on the east coast and in the midwest
her entire life. I have, in the past, travelled to California specifically
for a concert. Finding this internet connection is so wonderful!! I have
been trying to get concert info for about a year, off and on, and you guys
are laying it right in my lap. ThankYou!!!!!
I understand Cleveland is a possibility? That happens to be my hometown!
Count me in.
Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself, Margie Wolf,....and my boyfriend,
Pat Kennedy, who is also a JS fan, WHO considers himself a bigger fan,
simlply because he is older and has seen John in concert more times than he
can remember (mostly in the 70's and 80's). He lived in Marin County(Novato)
for about 45 years; but spent the first decade of life in Kansas. We get
along well mostly because we give each other....a little road and a stone to
roll.
Thanks ........... Margie
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Subj: Re: New Bloodliner
Date: 97-02-28
From: Paul4500@aol.com
Hey, Margie, welcome to Bloodlines. Whereabouts in Kansas did Pat grow up?
I was born in Lawrence and, spent most of my childhood in Kansas.
But, as the song goes...
"You can't go back to Kansas...."
Paul
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Subj: Re: John Stewart Website
Date: 97-02-28
From: rangerz@geocities.com (Robbie)
Great site. Can't wait for the Omaha Rainbow pages to be uploaded.
Robbie
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Subj: Re: John Stewart Website
Date: 97-02-28
From: man@thetop.u-net.com (Hugh)
This site is great as are all the others. To think that just under a
year ago I could find nothing at all on John Stewart on the Internet.
Hugh
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Subj: Re: Justin Stills
Date: 97-02-28
From: DMotley@aol.com
Dear Bloodliners,
I was just visiting the CSN web site and learned about the serious injury to
Stephen Stills' son Justin in a snowboarding accident on Mt. Charelston, near
Las Vegas. I thought you should know about this, since I believe many of
you, like myself, are also big fans of CSN. For more info. or to send a
get well message, visit the CSN site, listed under pop/rock at the the Music
space Message Center.
Keep it flyin'
Mott
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Subj: Re: New Bloodliner
Date: 97-02-28
From: MARGIE104@aol.com
Thanks for the welcome, Paul.
Pat grew up in Hutchinson, Kansas. He would like to know where you have
lived.
We did attempt to "......go back to Kansas ...." about two years ago Pat's
mother died. She was flown to Kansas to be buried. According to Pat, the
only thing different about Hutchinson is that there are no more Buffalo in
the park. From what I understand, back in the 40's and 50's there were
Buffalo somewhere in the community park.
Maybe there's a song somewhere in there!! Later, Margie
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Subj: Re: New Bloodliner
Date: 97-02-28
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
I'm a SoCal gal who went to a very small liberal arts college in
Kansas....Hillsboro, to be exact..
Nancy
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Subj: Re: New Bloodliner
Date: 97-02-28
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
I have Kansas bloodlines as well. Parents are from Cherokee County--little
town (pop. 4,000) of Columbus, the county seat. Have kinfolk in neighboring
town of Neodashea. Lived four years in Wichita. Ah, Wheatfield
Ladies!!!!!!!!!!!!
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