Bloodlines Mailing List archives February 21-24, 1997
from the John Stewart email list
lots of introductions, Pat Boone, George Yanok,
Bloodlines badges and more.-REB
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Subj: Re: Favor
Date: 97-02-21
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
Welcome to Bloodlines, Kent..... :))))
We've all done a little "autobiography"...Care to elaborate a bit more on yours?
Nancy <---- In Arizona where we get to see John usually twice a year! <giggle>
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Subj: Re: Pat Boone ? Pat Boone!!
Date: 97-02-21
From: Dan_Hodges@usccmail.lehman.com (Dan Hodges)
Gery,
In a followup story the reporter later remembered that he first heard
that song while covering Elvis shows in the '70's. It turns out that
the "King" tuned up his voice before each show "singing July you're a
woman (or a month - I forget which) more that anyone I've ever known -
la de da, la de da" - or something like that.
Dan H.
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Subj: RE: Favor
Date: 97-02-21
From: rcaplow@decisive.com (Randi Caplow)
If anyone does get information on how to read George's column online, please let me know. I'd
rather read something before I comment on it, because I'd hate to write something insignificant
and unrelated or have it be obvious to everyone but me that I'm praising something I've never
seen. Not that I don't trust John's word, I'm sure it's fabulous. That's just how I am.
Thanks.
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Subj: Working on it
Date: 97-02-22
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
Randi wrote:
>If anyone does get information on how to read George's column online,
>please let me know. I'd rather read something before I comment on it,
>because I'd hate to write something insignificant and unrelated or have it
>be obvious to everyone but me that I'm praising something I've never seen.
>Not that I don't trust John's word, I'm sure it's fabulous. That's just
>how I am.
That's how I am, too. I have e-mailed George asking him to send me the
articel so I can post it here. And I'll do so as soon as I get it from him.
Michelle
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Subj: Re: Latest Itinerary
Date: 97-02-21
From: JACBirch@aol.com
Well, maybe God isn't so cruel after all. Last October, I saw Angelbravo
and "Dave" at the Towne Crier in Pawling, NY, but for only 8 songs, due to my
wife's sudden illness (not at all attributable to John--she's a fan, too,
although in a much less fanatical sense), but now it looks like I'll be able
to see him three times in April (at the Iron Horse, the Caffe Lena, and the
Towne Crier)! Then again, maybe I shouldn't count my chickens.
I can't wait for "Rough Sketches" to come out on CD. My car doesn't have a
tape player. And thanks to John for confirming that some of the "College
Concert" songs on the KT Box Set were actually studio versions in the first
place.
Peace to everyone.
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Subj: Re: Favor
Date: 97-02-22
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
>We've all done a little "autobiography"...Care to elaborate a bit more on
yours?
>
>Nancy <---- In Arizona where we get to see John usually twice a year! <giggle>
>
Sure, thanks: Born and raised in Kansas City, where I started following
John through my older brothers' Kingston Trio records during my "folk craze"
phase in the 60s. Unfortunately, I caught the tail end of the Trio's career
-- I loved "Children of the Morning," largely because it featured so much of
John's art, and then, poof, the Trio was gone. I kept looking for anything
connected with the Trio the next few years ... "Once Upon A Time" helped
bridge the gap ... and then I stumbled across "California Bloodlines."
Instant joy, great wonderment, absolute awe!! Tracked down "Signals Through
The Glass," found "Willard" when it came out and there I was ... like so
many "Stewartistas": Hooked forever.
In January, '71, John appeared at the best coffeehouse KC ever saw: The
Vanguard. He was opening for Pat Paulsen. What a double bill! I was
writing for my high school paper at the time and went to the show to a)
interview John and write a feature and b) catch the show. Wound up
interviewing John, missing Paulsen's show entirely ... and having the most
enjoyable time of my life! Still have the tape (of the interview and John's
performance ... is that a bootleg? don't worry, Angelbravo ... it's always
played to an audience of one) and the thing that struck me about talking
with John at the time was that he asked me as many questions as I did of
him. He was interested in what I was doing, what were my impressions of his
music and so on. And I guess John has always been like that ... and that's
why his music is so special: He writes about the American character, our
heritage, our bloodlines ... he has always been a student of the American
psyche. Guess it's like we've said in one form or another: John sings to
us ... about us. About our better side, about a life we've hoped for,
dreamed of or believed in.
Anyway, fast forward to today ... and like I said, a lapse of a number of
years for family time, "career tracking," etc., when I had difficulty
keeping track of John until the last year when the 'Net brought me all the
wonderful web pages belonging to Michelle, Ron and Wondrdog. It's great to
be home again.
(There you go, Nancy ... hope you're not sorry you asked ... but I'm glad
you did.)
Kent <---- in a 'burb named Ballwin in St. Louis, where we at least have
pretty speedy delivery of John's records from Homecoming! ;)
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Subj: Re: Biiography!
Date: 97-02-22
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
Thanks, Kent....welcome aboard!
Nancy
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Subj: Re: Just checking
Date: 97-02-22
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
Luke N. Havumaki wrote:
. It makes me feel "connected" to
>know that John & co. take the time to be a part of this bloodlines
>family.
I totally agree....Not everyone saw this as I recall, but after I
let my Bloodlines friends know about my personal crisis with my recent
separation, John wrote me the most poignant and caring letter I could ever
have imagined. I was absolutely astounded that this man would take the time
to write me a relatively lengthy note, because he genuinely cared about the
pain I was suffering. His caring and concern just radiated from a simple
letter via email. It literally brought tears to my eyes, and I will cherish
it forever. His words were wise and very helpful to me.
I hope I didn't totally embaress ya, John, but I had to voice my
agreement about this "family" and how people do seem to care for one another
more as time goes on.
Nancy <--- "Touched by an Angel-bravo"
"Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit
salvation?
"...Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have
entertained angels without knowing it..." ~ Hebrews 1:14; 13:2
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Subj: Maybe You Can Go Home Again...
Date: 97-02-22
From: Ddumail@aol.com
Maybe You Can Go Home Again...
If It Was Never Home In The First Place
by
GEORGE YANOK
A little over a year ago my wife, Suzanne, and I moved to Nashville with an
enormous load of useless possessions, two faithful lunatic dogs and their
supervisor, our cat. I'd been hired in California by the dick clark company
to be co-producer of PRIME TIME COUNTRY, a new show on TNN replacing Crook &
Chase.
I had no regrets leaving 'Hollywood'. I fall some distance outside the
demographically acceptable 18-34 age range networks prefer both in audiences
and in creators of their programming. They not only don't want me to write
their shows, they don't want me watching them.
So to Nashville we came. RAC Clark, dick clark's son, headed our company
here under the title, Producer. Why was he not co-producer to me if I was
that to him you might ask? You might ask. I know better. There were also
three Executive Producers, a purely 'television' title which absolves the
holder from having to show up for anything but picnics and executions. Turned
out there'd be lots of both.
I joked to RAC early on that working on PRIME TIME was like running the
casino with Fredo and hoping to God the rest of the Corleones don't come to
town. I recall he laughed or it may have been his tofu repeating. Before
very long though, I realized that Fredo was me. I was the one in a boat in
the middle of a lake reciting 'Hail Mary's' into the gathering gloomx and
thinking about my last trip to Nashville.
Yes, I've been here before.
By summer of 1969 I had exactly six months experience as a junior staff
writer on The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour. I'd been fortunate to write with
Jack Burns whom I'd long admired as half of the hilarious 'Burns & Schreiber'
comedy duo. Jack introduced me to Frank Peppiatt and John Aylesworth,
successful writer/producers who had just sold a summer series to CBS to be
produced in Nashville. They hired Jack and I as writers. A popular anecdote
around Hollywood that summer recounted how the series had been sold with just
a five word pitch: 'A country-western Laugh-In'.
We began putting together "HEE HAW" , for that was to be it's title, in
offices vacated by the recently canceled Jonathan Winters show. I still have
his desk blotter with a drawing of a marlin inscribed, "J. Winters...out of
work '69."
Frank and John were talented and fun loving guys who worked hard in the
morning, then took four hour lunches. Jack was used to their routine; they'd
worked together in New York on Kraft Music Hall. As junior writer I saw no
choice but to march in step. What else? I was lucky to survive. Hell, I
learned, was a rush hour commute to Malibu into the setting sun with a
hangover.
When time came for production in Nashville at the local CBS affiliate (then
called WLAC-TV) we decided against all logic to make the trip by train.
Reinforcing each others dreams of idyllic vistas, Rocky Mountain trout
dinners and gently swaying berths, we fantasized ourselves Gable in "The
Hucksters" or Grant in "North By Northwest". So we boarded one of the last
pre-AMTRAK Super Chief runs to Chicago, connecting with the Dixie Flyer to
Nashville.
Our trip has since become legend. Already those who claim they were along
exceeds the number supposedly gathered at Lincoln's deathbed. We were but
five: Peppiatt, Aylesworth, Burns, Yanok...and comedian/writer Pat McCormick
who rode to Chicago dressed as a priest . Our fellow passengers were shocked
beyond words to see us lure this gentle prelate into our marathon poker game
and turn him into a drunken, profane, church fund-losing, Roman-collared
ruin.
Club car 'cocktails' in those days cost something like 50 or 75 cents. When
we reached Chicago (about 40 hours later) our bar bill was over 800 dollars.
I do not excuse or condone that statistic. It's offered not to boast but to
recount in context our singular experience in the creation of an enduring
chapter in the popular culture of Nashville and America, our personal
excesses notwithstanding. We were then who we were and none of us still is.
On the night our train pulled into Nashville's Union Station (not yet a
hotel) Sam Lovullo and Rita Scott of our production staff met us with mule
drawn hay wagons which transported us through empty streets to the Holiday
Inn on James Robertson Parkway. Instead of the intended triumphant entrance
we were like the stroke-felled President Woodrow Wilson riding through
Washington waving to...no one. As an omen, it was not comforting.
Regarded as a beloved institution today, HEE HAW , in fact, began quite
differently. An unbroken thread leads from me that night in a hay wagon to
doomed Fredo, years later, in that figurative boat.
It is a thread to be twitched later.
-0-
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Subj: Re: Maybe You Can Go Home Again...
Date: 97-02-22
From: cnewton@fyi.net (Christopher Newton)
Thanks for tracking down George Yanok's column for us. When I emailed the
Banner editor, it was just a shot in the dark when I called Yanok's writing
"irrestibly engaging" and praised his "grasp of character, eye for telling
detail and blend of warmth and wit." Turns out, that shot in the dark was
right on target. The Banner IS lucky to have him.
Kit Newton
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Subj: Re: Working on it
Date: 97-02-22
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
Please list George's E-Mail address. I have a question to ask him. Thank
you.
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Subj: Re: Working on it
Date: 97-02-22
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
>Please list George's E-Mail address. I have a question to ask him. Thank
>you.
writir@aol.com
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Subj: Re: Working on it
Date: 97-02-23
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
George Yanok - Writir@aol.com
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Subj: Those Darn IDs
Date: 97-02-24
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
For all of you who have ordered the Bloodlines ID badges, they are on their
way to your homes as we type. Thanks to all for your patience!
And for those of you who are new to our group (there are about 10 of you in
the last 2 weeks!) go to
http://www.concentric.net/~ddunet/seattle.html
for more information on just what this is.
Michelle Luce Stevens
http://www.concentric.net/~Ddunet/ (John Stewart Home Pages)
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Subj: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: nnacorpcommb@earthlink.net (Kurt von Zumwalt)
Several weeks ago I was fortunate enough to run across Ron's
excellent Clack Clack site and for the first time experienced what
everyone's been telling me about the internet--everything's there, it's
just a matter of finding it. For me, the "it" in this case was a source
for John's music. What I didn't expect were the gems of wisdom, stories
from the heart and camaraderie of strangers who are not strangers at
all. After subscribing to Bloodlines I spent the first few weeks just
"listening" in. From the softly spoken Jaime looking for a connection
to his own bloodlines to the carefully recorded playlist from John's
latest concert or the hilarious "Barry McGuire" story. I don't share
the depth of knowledge so many of you have about John and those who have
played with him over the years. I was not much more than a kid working
my way through college on the GI Bill when I first heard John play in
the early to mid-seventies at the Golden Bear in Huntington Beach, CA.
I was hooked. His words gave voice to my thoughts. Like I've read so
many times over the past few weeks--his lyrics were so relevant to the
trials and tribulations of my own life. But time passed and pretty soon
I noticed there was nothing but thin air on the record store shelf
between Al Stewart and Rod Stewart. After "Punch the Big Guy" I started
thinking John had gone into a well deserved retirement. So, for the
next 15 or so years I wore out the vinyl gooves and listened to
stretched audio tapes of the four John Stewart albums I had picked up in
the seventies. I'm sure it must seem naive to those of you who have
followed John's career so faithfully, but realities of a growing family,
a jigsaw career and the difficulty of finding John's music made me a
John Stewart backslider. with the advent of CD's I thought surely
John's work would start popping up. But it wasn't until late last year
that my local CD store showed anything on their computer for John and
then it was only two recordings--The Trio Years and The Last Campaign.
Having these two whetted my appetite for more which gets me back to
finding Ron, Homcoming Records and all of you. I look forward to
receiving a pretty good package from Homecoming soon, including some
serious catch up with Airdream Believer. Even more, I look foward to
seeing John again.
I know it's customary to include something of a personal introduction
but since I've already run on a bit longer than I had planned, let me
just say that I'm 48-year-old Public Relations guy with one of the
Japanese auto companies. Write a few speeches, handle crisis
communications and generally serve as a corporate spokesperson. Three
kids--one daughter away at college and 8 and 10 year old boys--and a
wife who shares my life and most of my musical tastes. Love John Prine,
Lyle Lovett, Nanci Griffith, the Weavers, Hoyt Axton (he's another one
who is hard to find), earlier Dylan and just about anything from Neil
Young. That's about it from Long Beach, CA. Just glad to have found
some kindred spirits. Kurt von Zumwalt
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
Welcome aboard! From one recent subscriber (and fellow communicator)
to another ... Kent
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: PFARNAM@aol.com
Welcome aboard Kurt, from a fellow Stewartista just over the line in
Orange County.
Patrick Farnam
Huntington Beach
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Subj: Pat Boone
Date: 97-02-24
From: tae69@dial.pipex.com (Mark Austin)
Just out of interest, there a small piece about Pat in the February
issue of New Country Magazine. Very little mention of his past, no mention of
John, but apparently his next album is to be an album of
heavy metal cover from Metallica, Alice Cooper and the like!
Mark
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
Kurt von Zumwalt wrote:
> That's about it from Long Beach, CA. Just glad to have found
>some kindred spirits. Kurt von Zumwalt
>
Welcome, Kurt.....Long Beach is my home town...born and raised there till I
was 22, and moved. Went to Brethren Christian High School, Grad 1973
Nancy <---- wondering why your name sounds familiar to me
"Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit
salvation?
"...Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have
entertained angels without knowing it..." ~ Hebrews 1:14; 13:2
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: nnacorpcommb@earthlink.net (Kurt von Zumwalt)
PFARNAM@aol.com wrote:
>
> Welcome aboard Kurt, from a fellow Stewartista just over the line in Orange
> County.
> Patrick Farnam
> Huntington Beach
Patrick: Thanks for the welcome. As a Huntington Beacher you probably
remember the Golden Bear on PCH across the street from the pier. Been
gone now for a decade or so but was a great club in its day. Still
pains me to see the conglomeration of frozen yogert, fast food and
tourist trinket stores that have risen on its ashes. Speaking of clubs,
where does John play in So. Calif.? I saw John Prine last year at the
Galaxy Theatre in Santa Ana and Willie and Leon at the Coach House in
San Juan Capistrano a couple of months ago but those are about the only
clubs I visit regularly.
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield)
Wecome aboard Kurt! The Golden Bear was a fantastic place to see John. I
saw every show he did there, and like you, was extremely disapointed to see
its demise. These days, John's favorite club to play in Southern California
is McCabes in Santa Monica. Being a San Diegan, I would like him to play at
The Belly Up tavern in Solana Beach, also an excellent venue. Although, A
place that would be perfect for John to play would be "Leo's Little bit 'o
Country" in San Marcos...of course he would have to open with "18 Wheels!!!"
Merle Stringfield
Santee, CA
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: DMotley@aol.com
Welcome aboard Kurt from a former Orange Countian (Tustin), now transplanted
to Crestline (near Lake Arrowhead). In answer to your question, John
generally makes a mid-summer appearance at Mc Cabes in Santa Monica. Check
the LA Times calendar section on Sundays for Mc Cabes schedule. I saw JS
at The Golden Bear a couple of times, and at Chapman College twice. Sure
wish he would come to the "Inland Empire", since he spent some of his early
years here.
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: nnacorpcommb@earthlink.net (Kurt von Zumwalt)
> Nancy <---- wondering why your name sounds familiar to me
Could be that you're remembering Admiral Elmo Zumwalt who headed up the
Navy in the late sixties and is famous (infamous?) for bringing back
beards to the ranks. I believe his son later wrote a book about his own
fight against cancer that may have been linked to the defoiliant Agent
Orange used in Vietnam. Or perhaps our paths crossed in Long Beach. I
moved there in 1970 after getting out of the Army and graduated from
Long Beach State Journalism Dept. in '74. During college I worked for a
few years at a fairly well known ice cream/candy store on Main St. in
Seal Beach called "Grandmas". In fact, it was one of my coworkers there
who introduced me to John's music. Invariably he'd show up to work with
a fistful of tapes to play on the store's stereo--John Stewart, of
course, along with Jim Croce, Gordon Lightfoot, John Fogerty, Joni
Mitchel and Loggins & Messina. Good writers/musicians one and all but
it seems to me that John Stewart's work has stood the test of time
better than any of them.
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Subj: Re: Pat Boone
Date: 97-02-24
From: Ddumail@aol.com
Mark Wrote:
Just out of interest, there a small piece about Pat in the February
issue of New Country Magazine. Very little mention of his past, no mention of
John, but apparently his next album is to be an album of
heavy metal cover from Metallica, Alice Cooper and the like!
Yeah, Mark!
Makes that story about Pat Boone wanting to change the line in July, You'r'e
A Woman kinda silly now, doesn't it? I think that should be part of the
multimedia show, don't you? John telling that story with a picture of the
tatooed and leathered Pat projected behind him. Cool!
Michelle, your friendly mailing list manager
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Subj: Re: Pat Boone
Date: 97-02-24
From: lnhfbo@polaristel.net (Luke N. Havumaki)
I for one have actually listened to parts (as of yet) of Pat Boone's
heavy metal CD. A friend of mine is making me a tape alternating between
the actual heavy metal group and then Pat's version. Hearing "Smoke on
the Water" by Pat is a rare treat. The major difference? is that this CD
sounds like a Holiday Inn lounge singer's version of heavy metal songs.
You can understand the lyrics and yes he has taken creative liberty and
again changed some lyrics...
Personal note for Luke Stewart and Angelbravo : Thanks! The videos
allow me to see what john must be like in concert. The energy and spark
that he and Buffy have between them I hope everyone can experience with
their special person. Also, my new favorite "patter" is the story of
being left behind and having dreams of washing dishes...
Welcome to the newcomers and I can't wait until Wisconsin. I would
rather wait until Minnesota, but I don't see that coming.
Luke
There is a train and it runs by my room
And the train is called reality and it's coming way too soon.-John Stewart
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: PFARNAM@aol.com
I too remember the Golden Bear fondly - I used to live on 11th street, so it
was just a short walk for me.
Lately, McCabe's, in Santa Monica seems to be the only place we get to see
John.
Once per year, usually in June or July. I try to make both the early and
late shows, since he's only hear once a year.
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
All you "California GUYS" can sure make an old California alum in Texas feel
like he's "stuck in Lodi" again. JS is the only way I keep my balance
walking between these many worlds. Bluesy out.
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Subj: Fwd: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
Welcome Kurt, you party animal.
I miss playing the Golden Bear and hope our agent, Stephen "spit
bucket"Gordon will find us a gig in Orange County,my daughter lives there.
You can email Gordon t Gordoom@aol.com with any gig ideas. So welcome kurt,
the chips and are over by lava lamp.
John
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Subj: Re: Maybe You Can Go Home Again...
Date: 97-02-24
From: WardHorde@aol.com
Thanks for posting Yanok's column. It was truly a hoot to read. Or maybe a
hee haw. And consider the Banner emailed with effusive praise.
Marty
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Subj: Re: An Introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
>All you "California GUYS" can sure make an old California alum in Texas feel
>like he's "stuck in Lodi" again. JS is the only way I keep my balance
>walking between these many worlds. Bluesy out.
Don't feel alone, Bluesy. A concert once a quarter-century way out here on
the "Middle Coast" isn't the worst thing in the world ... er, well ... then
again ... y'know, those videos sound like a pretty good idea right now ...
Kent :?)
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Subj: introduction
Date: 97-02-24
From: drwatsup@juno.com
hi everyone - just finished reading 104 messages since i signed on. i try
to check the email everyday but i was away for a week. dave batti
introduced me to bloodlines. thanks dave. the messages back and forth
have been interesting to say the least.
a little bit about me - you probably won't hear from me much, i never
raised my hand in class much either. i'm a 48 year old married insurance
broker in baltimore with an 18 year old daughter at u of pa and a 16
year old son getting his driver's license tomorrow. i've been a fan of
john's for 36 years and a friend of john's for about 10 years. i hope he
won't mind my saying that I've also been his insurance broker for about 6
years.
my other life (besides insurance and sherlock holmes) involves the world
folk music association. we just had a great festival in dc 3 weeks ago
that included sets by john & buffy, darwin's army and john hoke as well
as many others. all i can say to people who keep posting "why doesn't
john come to ..." is to set the gig up yourself. that's how i got started
putting on folk music in baltimore about 13 years ago. i was tired of
driving to dc to see folk music (including john at the cellar door). i
started doing shows here at a great little club called ethel's place (now
gone). john was one of the first shows we did. baltimore now has folk
music 2 nights a week from september to june. you never know what you can
accomplish until you try.
enough rambling - glad to be aboard!
steve rosenberg
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Subj: Re: Pat Boone
Date: 97-02-24
From: insman@citynet.net (Ron Fleshman)
Luke:
You can't believe the publicity the old "white buckster" is getting
from all of this. My son, age 10, wants to buy the album. The local
Camelot records store says they get about 10-15 requests a day for the
album. 'Ole Zalman (Pat's nickname for himself) recreated himself --
for awhile.
Ron
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