Bloodlines Mailing List archives February 8-12, 1997
from the John Stewart email list Maestro's show reports, Roswell, a family reunion, favorite lyrics and the Miracle Mile -REB ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Video mailing timeline Date: 97-02-08 From: lnhfbo@polaristel.net (Luke N. Havumaki) I now possess 2 John Stewart autographs (which I treasure) in the form of cancelled checks. Brief question as to the turnaround time on the videos. It's been about 2 to 3 weeks since my order and just wondering... If it's in the proverbial mail, ignore this. (I'm just very eager to see with my eyes what I've only heard in my soul.) As for those who have experienced loss and suffering on our little bloodliners group, I can only offer my sincere sympathy. My wife's mother passed away last October the day before my wife's birthday and I can honestly say I took heart in the shadow of the angels' wings. Luke There is a train and it runs by my room And the train is called reality and it's coming way too soon.-John Stewart ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Fwd: Video mailing timeline Date: 97-02-09 From: Angelbravo@aol.com I'll check on your order if it's been two weeks, you should have it by now. Quite a few never arrived and never came back. Will let you know. Luke Stewart ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Birchemere Friday Date: 97-02-09 From: WardHorde@aol.com Thanks for the review of the Birchemere show. I've often wondered whatever happened to Bill Danoff; it's nice to know he's still around. Is he still recording? He's apparently still writing. "Boulder to Birmingham" is a great song...but in my mind the definitive version is Emmylou Harris' on her debut album. Again, thanks for the review. Marty ________________________________________________________________ Subj: http://www.execpc.com/vjentpr/roswell.html Date: 97-02-09 From: donfish@sttl.uswest.net (D&L Ruiz/Peeveyroo) I've finally listened to ``Max Brasell's Farm'' enough to develop a little more curiousity about what it was that happened at Roswell. And to that end, I found the attached website. And there are several more... just search ``roswell'' and several will turn up. -- Don PS: A workman was just here trying to fix a problem on my phone lines. As he was working I was listening to JS's instrumental ``Savanah.'' When it finished the worker called me over and asked what I had been listening to. I gave him far more information than I'm sure he wanted. Then the said, ``It was pretty good.'' Another convert. ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: http://www.execpc.com/vjentpr/roswell.html Date: 97-02-09 From: Angelbravo@aol.com Thanks. Bravo out. ________________________________________________________________ Subj: An introduction and an odd question Date: 97-02-09 From: cynical@emf.net (Jamais Cascio) Hi all I actually haven't listened to JS in years; my mom had quite a few of his albums. For this reason, I approach you all with some trepidation. I don't want to be seen as an interloper, nor do I want to treat any of you with disrespect. My reason for joining this list is somewhat odd. My mother was very close to Michael Stewart, John Stewart's brother, and the founder of a one-hit-wonder 1960's band called We Five. My mom was *very* close to Michael Stewart in the year before I was born, and in the year after. Michael is my genetic father. He is also the father of a sister whom I've never seen, as my mother's parents forced her to give up the second child for adoption. Long sordid story. The upshot of it is that I have no memories of Michael (although I do have a very old memory of my mother and the man I grew up with as my father going to a John Stewart concert when I was three, and meeting JS backstage) I am interested in any information about Michael Stewart, John Stewart's brother, that you could provide. I am not seeking anything here except information; I have no wish to disrupt anyone's life, or make anyone uncomfortable. I'm about to turn 31, and my sister (out there somewhere in the world) just turned 30 on february 5. I just want to know if there are any health concerns I should have, and I just want a sense of, if not closure, then peace about this. Again, my apologies for stepping into your discussions with something not directly about JS. Unfortunately, Michael Stewart is not an unusual name by any means, so searching on that basis is something of a daunting task. If anyone could provide me with information to go on, I would very much appreciate it. Thank you in advance Jamais Cascio cynical@emf.net http://www.emf.net/~cynical Work: 510-547-6822 ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: An introduction and an odd question Date: 97-02-09 From: Angelbravo@aol.com Jama, email me at Angelbravo@aol.com I'm your Uncle John. I wondered what happened to you. Good to hear from you. JS ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: An introduction and an odd question Date: 97-02-09 From: lcfoster@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (Laurie (and Bob , Katie and Matt) Foster) Angelbravo@aol.com wrote: > Dear bloodlines@world.std.com, > Jama, > email me at Angelbravo@aol.com > I'm your Uncle John. I wondered what happened to you. > Good to hear from you. > JS Angel Bravo--When I read Jama's note, I was deeply moved by the struggle he was clearly going through. Your response shows the class act I expected from someone who writes songs the way you do. Way to go!! Who says the Internet is devoid of family values. (g) Bob (If somebody wrote this as a TV script nobody would believe it)Foster ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: An introduction and an odd question Date: 97-02-09 From: Bluesy33@aol.com I just wish he was my uncle. ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: An introduction and an odd question Date: 97-02-13 From: RMoore1004@aol.com Me, too!! ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: An introduction and an odd question Date: 97-02-10 From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott) At 08:07 PM 2/9/97 -0500, Angelbravo@aol.com wrote: >Jama, >email me at Angelbravo@aol.com >I'm your Uncle John. I wondered what happened to you. >Good to hear from you. >JS > > Wow...another family reunion. I hope this is a positive experience, just like my experience in Missouri a few weeks ago. I wish you both the best :))))) Nancy "Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation? "...Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it..." ~ Hebrews 1:14; 13:2 ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: An introduction and an odd question Date: 97-02-10 From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens) >I just wish he was my uncle. Ditto. ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Family reunions....\ Date: 97-02-10 From: NAVARRO@ai.sri.com (Georgia Navarro) I have tears running down my face, because I didn't know what kind of response Jama's message would generate. I guess I'm too new to the list, and I don't know enough about you. Class is such a mild term, but I can't think of anything else. Happy reunion, Jama and John... ... Georgia ------- ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Family reunions... Date: 97-02-10 From: lnhfbo@polaristel.net (Luke N. Havumaki) Maybe we can all think of John as our wise and learned uncle, avuncular and tolerant... Maybe in another life he was... Luke ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Favorite JS Lyrics Date: 97-02-10 From: MFinleyCS@aol.com I suppose everyone has their favorite JS lyrics, but what the heck, why not share them around just for the fun and inspiration of it all? Lines that stay with me are from the "Teresa and the Lost Songs" version of "Across the Milky Way. (Buffy leaves them out in the "Live at the Turf Inn" CD version.) I liked them so much when I first heard them, and they were so appropriate, that I put them on a page by themselves up front in my book, "Whispers of Love: Encounters With Deceased Relatives and Friends" (Crossroad Publishing Co., 1995). Here they are: "If all the hearts that the Spirit loves / Were standing side by side, / They would be forever long / And ten thousand miles wide. / Turn them all to stars / Across the Milky Way, / Truly they would make / The night as bright as day." Recently my book was translated and published in France. Seeing these lyrics in French was a kick; couldn't help but try to imagine what JS would sound like singing them in French! Not likely. . . Mitch Finley ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Thanks folks Date: 97-02-10 From: cynical@emf.net (Jamais Cascio) I just want to thank people here on the list for all of the kind messages I've received over the last few days. I'm in contact with John now, and we're working on trying to get in touch with Mike. Thanks! Jamais Cascio ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Maestro's Date: 97-02-10 From: ClackClack@aol.com I don't think my brain is quite up to a full concert report. Late to bed, early to rise took its toll. Maybe later. Actually I'm hoping that Randi comes through with a full report. I think we had a good crowd of Bloodliner's there. John seemed jazzed about it. We were honored with the second performance of Darwin's Army. Let me assure you that the initial reports from the Birchmere were true. They are really good. Seeing John fire up that old banjo is a real treat in itself, but the band is about what real folk music is about. The group monniker is a fitting name. They're the evolution of the species carrying forward the best traits of the past. John Hoke gets to show off his good voice and guitar work. My son Brian's favorite song is "that Henry song" as he calls it; he loves hearing Buffy call out those lines. Besides that he told me his favorite song of the night was China Sky and "those banjo songs". So I'd have to say that the bridge of folk music from the older generation to the newest is off to a good start. Here's the setlist. There's a special grouping of songs in there that brought tears to my eyes. And I don't want to spoil the party and tell you the Barry McGuire story. I think John has found one that tops "Pat Boone"! John Hoke & Dave Batti opened with a short set but being unfamiliar with Hoke's songs I unfortunately can't name them. Maestro's Feb 9, 1997 Ticket To the Stars Shadow's of the Angel's Wings Keeper of The Flame Chilly Winds Armstrong (great spare acoustic version) Irresistable Targets Wingless Angels/Survivors Bolinas (Buffy) Runaway Train Cowboy In The Distance (that great new song) July You're A Woman (complete with Seattle Mister intro) Dreamer's On The Rise Neon Road Rider (with a shuffle) Kingston Trio/John Phillips/Barry McGuire story Sing My Heart Away Across the Milky Way (Buffy) Cody -Darwin's Army- Darlin' Cory Mr Tambourine Man (Hoke on nice lead vocals) -<correction:My Back Pages> 12 Gates to the City (not sure of title-Weaver's song- four stars) Reason To Believe (Buffy- Tim Hardin song) Boy In The Bubble (Paul Simon song - really good) Goodnight Irene (Ledbelly song) end of Darwin Army set Gold (with a Sting) encore She Believes In Me Interview With An Angel (Buffy as the angel version) Ghost of the Superchief/Pirates of Stone County Road ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Maestro's Date: 97-02-11 From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott) Ok, this is the second posting I've seen where John PLAYED the banjo, and I've been dying to see/hear him play it again, since 1988 at Elario's in San Diego!! John, I'll remind ya when it gets closer to your next gig at Anderson's! <BG> Nancy ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Favorite JS Lyrics Date: 97-02-11 From: donfish@sttl.uswest.net (D&L Ruiz/Peeveyroo) I'm right there with you Mitch. Your quoted verse from ``Across the Milky Way'': > "If all the hearts that the Spirit loves / Were standing side > by side, / They would be forever long / And ten thousand miles wide. / Turn > them all to stars / Across the Milky Way, / Truly they would make / The night > as bright as day." might be my favorite as well. I attach my own meaning to the verse, and draw a very clear mental image from it. Yet I'm sure neither are exactly what JS intended. But I find that one of the constant appeals of his music: how regularly I can personalize his messages and images. But even with the most straightforward take, these words are both beautiful and uplifting. This whole song, I think, ranks way up there with his the very best. -- Don ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Maestro's Date: 97-02-11 From: Angelbravo@aol.com Clack it was great seeing all of you in our bloodlines tribe last night. Thanks for the kind remarks. The Dylan John Hoke sang in the Darwin's Army set was My Back Pages. Until we ride again Angelbravo ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Maestro's Date: 97-02-11 From: ClackClack@aol.com In a message dated 97-02-11, Angelbravo wrote: > The Dylan John Hoke sang in the Darwin's Army > set was My Back Pages. I'm cracking up right now. The note I scribbled in the dark said "Byrds song, M" and when I was posting the setlist I couldn't remember the dang song and thought it must have been Mr Tambourine Man even though it didn't sound right as I typed it. Thanks for the correction! Was the title correct for the Weaver's song? slipping off to work, Ron ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Maestro's Date: 97-02-11 From: Angelbravo@aol.com Correctoid Clackman Darwin's Set Darlin Corey My Back Pages Twelve Gates To the City Reason To Believe Boy In The Bubble Goodnight Irene ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Lyrics in Miracle Mile?? Date: 97-02-12 From: lcfoster@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (Laurie (and Bob , Katie and Matt) Foster) I spent the day doing my Federal income taxes and listening to "Live at the Turf Inn." ( talking about combining pleasure and pain....) But I keep thinking the liner notes for Miracle Mile are wrong. The printed lyrics say "I'll take you to the blue light honey, you can wear your jeans, Drink some true believers and listen to your dreams." Huh?? How does one drink true believers??? It sounds to me like it's really "drink some Cubalivres" (it's a mixed drink--I think--and I may have butchered the spelling) Can anyone help me?? Bob Foster, San Diego ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Lyrics in Miracle Mile?? Date: 97-02-12 From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield) Hi Bob, You're right! But the correct spelling is Cuba Libres. Go to Michelle Stevens' web page on John. Then go to "Wonderdog", then "Keeping in touch" then "Songs" Miracle Mile is the last song listed under the Ninety's. The lyrics are printed which is very cool. Granted, its not as much FUN as sitting there for hours trying to find out what in the world a singer is actually saying. Wanna have some real fun.....put on a early Stones album and try to get the lyrics!!!! Merle Stringfield Santee, CA ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Lyrics in Miracle Mile?? Date: 97-02-12 From: griffter1@webtv.net (Dick Griffith) Bob-- Oddly, I was listening to Live at the Turf Inn when I saw your message. It sounds like "We'll drink some Cuba Libres"...(Free Cuba). I don't have a lyric sheet in my copy. I've got the Feegie Records version. Is there another version that has a lyric sheet? And, if so, does a true JS completist have to have both? Cheers Dick ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Lyrics in Miracle Mile?? Date: 97-02-12 From: lcfoster@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (Laurie (and Bob , Katie and Matt) Foster) Dick-I have the one from Folk Era (FE1401CD)It also has the Homecoming Logo On it. Bob Foster ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Maestros, 2/9/97 Date: 97-02-12 From: rcaplow@decisive.com (Randi Caplow) Clack Clack volunteered me to post a review of the show, but I actually think what you guys posted (set lists and all) was just fine. Ron, I want to say I had no idea about your loss when I saw you, I just caught up on my e-mail now. I'd have certainly offered my condolences. But anyway, here's my quick report on how I think the show went. First of all I had a late start and got caught in terrible bumper-to-bumper traffic trying to cross the bridge from Fairfield to get to San Ramon. Consquently, i was late, and missed the opening set and the first two songs. Seeing "ticket to the stars" as first disappoints me, as that is one of my all-time favorites. I came with my friend Judea who hadn't seen John since a Sweetwaters show about 4 years ago. I came in to Keeper of the Flame. The show, from my perspective was as usual outstanding, though not quite as intimate feeling as the one I saw in Palo Alto. Somehow, I always manage to go to a john concert during a time that I am quite emotionally upset; this time no exception. I had been squabbling with my family and had just seen someone I had fallen in love with who married someone else. Somehow when I go see John and Buffy sing, their voices do more than entertain me. They sooth me, as if I'm their child being held and nurtured, rocked in a cradle, so to speak. Sounds corny I know, but it's the best way I can describe it. I always leave feeling much, much better. Ron was too modest to mention that Irresistable Targets was dedicated to him (now I understand why!) and John's mention of "requests from the Internet" more than once was kind of nice. So when we had that flood of mail requesting what songs he does live, know that they didn't go unnoticed. What else can I say? It was the first time I saw John Hoke, and I was very impressed with his guitar playing. Darwin's Army was a real treat as well. John mentioned that younger people wouldn't know the Weavers, but not true! When I was a wee little child, my mother raised me on all the folk songs done by these great artists, so the songs Darwin's Army sang were no stranger to me. I was surprized in fact that everyone in the audience wasn't singing along. I thought that was a tradition with the DA type of performance. Buffy put it beautifully after the show: When singing these songs she feels like everyone there should be in our pajamas, like we're at a big slumber party. That's how fun and comfy it is to listen to them. The Barry McGuire story? I don't remember what Ron's talking about; I'll let him tell it if he wants. I did get a laugh or two when John mentioned going to see Kingston Trio and that they were passing hearing aids out at the door. He made a lot of funny references to old age in this regard and expressed a lot of pity for the guy confined to his chair because of so much hip surgery... Well, as usual, the DA set and encores left me with goosebumps. I look forward to the next show, though I hope I don't have to be emotionally distraught to get its full value! Randi Joy. ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Favorite JS Lyrics Date: 97-02-12 From: ClackClack@aol.com Feeling like a stray dog: Run, dog, run You won't catch the sun But you can try Run, dog, run You'll just catch that semi rollin' by And I see that you caught the back wheels That's how all us stray dogs gonna die Ron "whose favorite lyrics change by the day or maybe the hour" Beffa ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Viewless in Faribault Date: 97-02-12 From: lnhfbo@polaristel.net (Luke N. Havumaki) To Luke Stewart c/o Angelbravo Still no video tape received as of 2/12/97. (I think we're going on 4 weeks here) Any word from your end? VCR is pumped and ready to roll. Shared names have to stick together. Luke ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Favorite JS Lyrics Date: 97-02-12 From: Bluesy33@aol.com "She believes in witches flyin' crazy cross the moon she believes an angel hides in the corner of her room she believes the ships come home singin' from the sea she believes in losers lord she believes in me she believes a pot of gold marks the rainbows end she believes a light will glow for the lonesome homeward friend" I heard this once on the radio in the late sixties and never forgot it. I looked for it for the next twenty odd years as I moved around the world. In 92 Dave sold me the Deep in the Neon tape at John's concert in San Antone where I found it again. As a misbegotten youth I identified immediately with the chorus. As a middleaged man I have fallen in love with the poetry of the song. It doesn't get any better than this. ________________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Viewless in Faribault Date: 97-02-12 From: Angelbravo@aol.com we need you to email your address again to be sure we have the right one. We''ll send it right out. Luke S. ________________________________________________________________ end of Bloodlines archive Feb 97 (C) Back to the archive menu