Bloodlines Mailing List archives February 1-4, 1997
Birchmere concert reports including the debut of Darwin's Army,
Omaha Rainbow news and a sad question.-REB
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Subj: Birchemere Friday
Date: 97-02-01
From: sprest02@sprynet.com (ALLMuse)
Hello Friends -
Just dragged myself in this evening after a 14 hour drive back to
Georgia after seeing the Friday night show at the Birchmere...work
prevented me from staying for Saturdays show so I hope someone will post
a review of it!
Here's some thoughts on the show.
John was excellent (as would be expected). During his between song
comments he asked if there was anyone from the mailing list on the
Internet...I think there was one or two besides me! Yes John...it WAS a
long drive!
He was right...they only got about 20-30 minutes to play...but what a
set! New Route 66 songs...including one about girls in Joplin Missouri
being the same as the girls in NYC...awesome... and the John and Buffy
version of Interview With an Angel was a stunning piece of
performance...with Buffy being the most graceful and regal stage
presence of an angel dialoguing with John...GOD this was great.
John finished by calling for his banjo and played Old Riley...an old
Weavers song which he recorded for a Pete Seeger tribute album to be
released.
As if John's set wasn't enough, there were a lot of other high points.
The Journeymen, as John noted, bowed out, but Dick Weissman did come and
joined with members of Hard Travelers to do River Come Down and Soft
Blow The Summer Winds (the first two cuts from the first Journeymen
album) as well as some excellent banjo picking...new age world music
banjo!
Odetta joined local man Donal Leace for a song before doing an entire
accapella set of spirituals, protest songs, and the like that had the
audience spellbound. Balm In Gilead and Motherless Child stood out for
me...what a talent!
Bill Danoff played his own set and with just about everyone else...he is
fun to watch...His song about computers cracked a rib or two on me...and
Boulder to Birmingham is a song I love, especially by the Hollies!
Carolyn Hester was excellent, doing some new music about Texas as well
as a song written by Susan White - who joined her - and Tom Paxton about
Alzheimers Disease called The Names of Trees. Not a dry eye to be found
after that song!
Hard Travelers were super - I had never heard them live before...I hope
I get the chance again. Their own set was excellent..and their fill in
for the ailing John Phillips and Scott McKenzie was letter perfect.
Eric Weissberg closed the show and was also in good form...I don't think
I realized what an excellent performer he was before tonight. I knew he
was a great player...but had no idea of the stage performer.
The show ended nearly five hours after it began with all performers
gathered to sing Bill Danoff's Friends.
It was an exhilirating evening...well worth the trip...with
AngelBravo's, Buffy's and Dave DAVE Batti's efforts the standout for me.
Hope I didn;t bore everyone...someone please tell us about Saturday
night!
Steve
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Subj: More Birchmere
Date: 97-02-02
From: sprest02@sprynet.com (ALLMuse)
Just in case anyone asks: JS set from Friday was
Ticket To The Stars
the Joplin/New York Song (AngelBravo-what's the name of this one?
loved it!)
Children of the New Frontier
Interview With An Angel
Neon Road
Old Riley
When you Saturday folks get in...please post a description and review!
Thanks
Steve
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Subj: chat reminder
Date: 97-02-02
From: ClackClack@aol.com
AOL chat scheduled for Tues Feb 4th at 6:30 Pacific. keyword chat, private
room neonroad.
Ron
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Subj: Question
Date: 97-02-02
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
I got a stupid question...and I'll apologize for it beforehand
Which JS song would be most appropriate when your husband of just over one
year, has been cheating on you for months and you're seperating??
I really need to know....I'm living it.
Nancy
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Subj: Re: Question
Date: 97-02-02
From: cnewton@fyi.net (Christopher Newton)
Try listening to "Shadows of the Angels' Wings." It always helps me when
I'm down.
Kit Newton.
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Subj: Re: Question
Date: 97-02-02
From: earlkctsr489@webtv.net (Earl Knoob)
Serious bummer Nanc. Sounds like you have a BAD RAT here. Try
Survivors or Omaha Rainbow. They've always worke for me.
Keep your eye on that far distant star........
earl
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Subj: Omaha Rainbow
Date: 97-02-02
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
Hi Everyone
I would like your help.
I have had permission to post every issue of Omaha Rainbow magazine
on the Web. However, the only way I can do this is to post it as
graphics files. These will take a lot longer to download than text
files but converting them to text would be a mammoth task.
I have uploaded one page; the URL is
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~slowcoach/jstewart/omaha/or04/or03_39.j
pg
If someone would like to try accessing this page please let me know
if it is fast or painfully slow.
In other words, I'd like to know if it is worth posting the entire
series. (There are 42 issues and each issue contains about 30 pages.
ie about 1200 pages in all. Phew!!)
Your comments would be most appreciated.
Bob Elliot
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There's no rest for the wicked.
A woman's work is never done.
Therefore, women are wicked.
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Subj: Re: Omaha Rainbow
Date: 97-02-02
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
I just tried it...this URL is no good...."File Not Found".....
Nanc
Subj: BOO BOO...
Date: 97-02-02
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
Nebber MIND..it does work...after I tried it several more times
Nanc
Subj: Re: Omaha Rainbow
Date: 97-02-02
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
Sorry...I realize now that I should have LOOKED and answered the question
Bob was asking before I sent the LAST email <sheepish grin>
It loads just fine, Bob...not too long at all. I have 28.8 modem and
Netscape 3.0
Nanc
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Subj: Maestro's show
Date: 97-02-02
From: ClackClack@aol.com
Hi all-
I thought I'd ask who plans to be going to the Maestro's (in San Ramon, CA)
show next Sunday(Feb 9th)? I'll be there with my son. We had a good time and
great seats last year. If you make a dinner reservation you get reserved
seats, and the food is pretty decent. We have dinner reservations for 6PM.
Show is at 8PM. BTW, the phone number Dave sent out is incorrect. The correct
number is 510-855-0370. Hope to see some of you there. (and will our password
be Seattle, Mister too?).
Ron
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Subj: Re: Maestro's show
Date: 97-02-02
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
Just out of curiosity, where exactly IS San Ramon? I need to come over to
CA, but not sure if I can get where "it" is. I have family in Palm Desert,
and Long Beach. I've heard of San Ramon, but can't place it. Mebbe a JS
fix is just what I need. :))))
Nanc
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Subj: Re: Maestro's show
Date: 97-02-02
From: lcfoster@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (Laurie (and Bob , Katie and Matt) Foster)
San Ramon is east of San Francisco, east of Oakland and then about
10 miles or so south of Walnut Creek.
Bob (my Dad used to be Supt. of Schools there) Foster
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Subj: WFMA Benefit Concert at the Birchmere
Date: 97-02-02
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
Evolution in the folk music universe is alive and well and the newest
species is Darwin's Army.
Remember the first time you saw John Stewart and a banjo live on stage? For
me, as a relative newcomer to John's music, it was last night at the
Birchmere. What a beautiful figure they cut together, the man and those
strings. He'll tell me later that night that he's not in top form with the
banjo, but that just adds to my delight, thinking that it could actually
get even better!
Darwin's Army is not the John Stewart you've come to know and love, but
don't worry, he's still around, as stated in Steve's Friday night concert
review. But as we have discusssed on this list many times, it is the
creative spirit that carries these musicians to try new songs, new
arrangements, new instrumentation, and maybe, just maybe, gain some new
fans to join us; to find what we've known for years.
I feel a certain satisfaction with crowd's appreciation after hearing the
folk legend that IS John Stewart with the support of Buffy's beautiful
voice, the foundation of Dave's bass guitar and the enthusiasm and energy
of the new kid on the block, John Hoke. This audience is folk-savvy. They
know their folk roots. They know what they like, and they loved Darwin's
Army (and so did I).
The Sunday afternoon show was just as awesome, punctuated with a great (but
admittedly short) set from John Hoke and Dave Batti. The Hoke/Batti duet
was well received and I couldn't help thinking of the proud mentor with
whose love and support these two have developed over the years. There they
were, on their own, the waltz of evolution continuing to flow through them.
My head and heart are filled with folk music after a total of 10 hours of
concert attendance in the last 24 hours. Whew! What a lucky girl I am, to
know such great musicians, who happen to be great people, too. (Or are they
great people who happen to be great musicians?) In any case, I am sated and
tired. I'm glad to have y'all to share it with me! G'night all.
Repectfully submitted,
Michelle Stevens, Webmistress and Bloodlines mailing list manager
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Subj: Re: Omaha Rainbow
Date: 97-02-03
From: fgrittner@earthlink.net (Fred Grittner)
I checked out Bob's jpg file of Omaha Rainbow and it loaded quickly and
looked fine. What a mammoth task to scan in all those pages. Bob, have you
looked in the Adobe Acrobat program for handling graphic files on the
internet? I am not sure, but that program may make it easier to bundle
multiple pages and allow quicker downloads. Just a thought. The file you
put up took me back in time. It would be great to set up a JS archive .
Fred
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Subj: Re: WFMA Benefit Concert at the Birchmere
Date: 97-02-03
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
At 09:33 PM 2/2/97 +0100, Michelle Stevens wrote:
>
He'll tell me later that night that he's not in top form with the
>banjo, but that just adds to my delight, thinking that it could actually
>get even better!
John's very worst on banjo, guitar or a WASHTUB would be far and away an
awesome sight....better than most "average" people's "best".
Nanc
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Subj: Re: Omaha Rainbow
Date: 97-02-03
From: martyn@nyx.nwnet.co.uk (Martyn Emerson)
>If someone would like to try accessing this page please let me know
>if it is fast or painfully slow.
>In other words, I'd like to know if it is worth posting the entire
>series. (There are 42 issues and each issue contains about 30 pages.
> ie about 1200 pages in all. Phew!!)
>
>Your comments would be most appreciated.
>
>Bob Elliot
Bob,
Using a 28.8 Global Village PCMCIA modem (in a Mac PowerBook 1400) I got as
fast a sustained transfer rate on a jpeg as I've ever managed (which is
only around 28Kbps - I guess because jpeg data is already highly
compressed).
However, I was connecting at 3.00am Monday to a server in the same time
zone, so I don't expect it was overly busy with other requests at the time.
But even if the server in question slows down severely at other hours, I
would be more than happy to spend a few late nights harvesting the fruits
of such a noble undertaking, should you decide to go ahead. I have issues
6 thru 25 (I think), but had pretty much given up on ever setting eyes on
the remainder.
Just one thought, though. I had no problems reading the image of this
particular page from an early OR, but was wondering if the scanner you're
using - and everyone else's monitors, for that matter - would be up to
making the rather smaller type from OR9 onwards easily decipherable. And
even more testing, what about one of Pete Frame's hand-drafted family
trees? The centrefold from OR21, for example, looks like a worst-case item.
Anyway, this particular test page occupied 108,011 bytes of disc space, so
my rough calculation for 1200 pages, allowing 20% margin for error, comes
to around 150MB. I can't think of any better use for one and a half ZIP
discs. So, all else being well, I for one am enthusiastically votingthat
you go for it.
Martyn
Manchester, England
Oops, just a second thought. Any chance at all that you could upload
everything to an ftp server? Much more efficient than the web for bulk
downloading of multiple files, in my experience. But then, doubtless the
fortunate majority in the home of the brave and land of the free local
phone call would prefer the option to preview and pick and choose which
http URLs allow. Better strike that thought. :-)
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Subj: Re: Omaha Rainbow
Date: 97-02-03
From: tae69@dial.pipex.com (Mark Austin)
Sample page seems to work fine. For those of us who have never
seen a single issue but have always heard of them, POST THEM!
What else are we going do with 150mb of empty space.
Mark
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Subj: Re: Question
Date: 97-02-03
From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield)
Nancy,
Chilly Winds once worked for me in a similar situation. That song always
pulls me through..."and if I can forget you, I might not come back at all"
Keep on keeping on...Merle
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Subj: No Subject
Date: 97-02-03
From: Dan_Hodges@usccmail.lehman.com (Dan Hodges)
Michelle wrote:
"Evolution in the folk music universe is alive and well and the newest
species is Darwin's Army."
"Darwin's Army is not the John Stewart you've come to know and love,
but don't worry, he's still around, as stated in Steve's Friday night
concert review. But as we have discusssed on this list many times, it
is the creative spirit that carries these musicians to try new songs,
new arrangements, new instrumentation, and maybe, just maybe, gain
some new fans to join us; to find what we've known for years."
"I feel a certain satisfaction with crowd's appreciation after hearing
the folk legend that IS John Stewart with the support of Buffy's
beautiful voice, the foundation of Dave's bass guitar and the
enthusiasm and energy of the new kid on the block, John Hoke. This
audience is folk-savvy. They know their folk roots. They know what
they like, and they loved Darwin's Army (and so did I)."
I was fortunate enough to be there for the Army's first conquest and I
too felt really good about the reception they received from this very
knowledgeable folk music crowd. Darwin's Army set list:
Darlin' Corey
Beautiful City
My Back Pages - John Hoke lead
Boy in the Bubble
Reason To Believe - Buffy lead
They Call the Wind Mariah
As you can see, all classic "folk songs"... that is the Darwin's Army
concept. The crowd loved the performance and was ready for more. John
said later that they were ready to go into "Good Night Irene", but
because of the format of the evening they got the "verbal hook" at
that point.
It was truly a night of great folk music and great performances from
the entire line up which included Tom Rush, Melaine and Tom Paxton. I
especially enjoyed Artisan (a cappella group from England) and Martin
Sexton - an amazing 3 octave voice.
Dan H.
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Subj: Re: Question
Date: 97-02-03
From: PeterB1103@aol.com
I've found myself humming "The Runner" during some tough times, and "Eyes of
Sweet Virginia" ("Hang on, dreams -- you ain't seen it all").
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Subj: Re: Question
Date: 97-02-03
From: sprest02@sprynet.com (ALLMuse)
Hi Nancy
I have to second the vote for Chilly Winds...I cant even begin to tell
you how many times in my life that song has allowed me to feel sorrow
and give me ultimate strength to say "I don't need the past" and move
onward. For sheer spite may I add another Stewart-Phillips composition:
Dont Turn Around as recorded by the Journeymen back in the early 60s.
Take care....not all men are penultimate jerks!
Steve
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Subj: Re: Question
Date: 97-02-03
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
Friends,
I have to apologize for my rather depressing "question"....I just felt
rather close to some of you, because we all love our man JS, and the
poingnat music he shares with us. I appreciate all your suggestions, and
have acted on some of them.
I couldn't figure out an easy way to "share" this devestating news with my
Bloodlines friends, so that was the method I chose.
The saddest part is that Randy is the one who introduced me to JS many years
ago, and we have been to every concert he's given in SoCal or Arizona in the
last 10 years or so. I will forever associate Randy with John Stewart
music, because we both love it so much, and that really bums me out.
But life goes on, eventually, and I will be fine someday. Thank you for all
your good wishes.
Nancy
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Subj: Re: Question
Date: 97-02-03
From: DMotley@aol.com
Nanc,
"Dink's Blues" (Bandera)
So sorry, Mott
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Subj: Re: Omaha Rainbow
Date: 97-02-03
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
>
> Martyn
> Manchester, England
>
>
> Oops, just a second thought. Any chance at all that you could upload
> everything to an ftp server? Much more efficient than the web for bulk
> downloading of multiple files, in my experience. But then, doubtless the
> fortunate majority in the home of the brave and land of the free local
> phone call would prefer the option to preview and pick and choose which
> http URLs allow. Better strike that thought. :-)
>
>
Thanks for the comments, Martyn. I don't have access to a FTP
server, just unlimited Web space, I'm afraid. So it is gonna have to
be on the Web.
Am working on the smaller print in the later issues and also that
nightmare of a centrefold.
Bob Elliot (Liverpool, England)
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Subj: Re: Omaha Rainbow
Date: 97-02-03
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
> Sample page seems to work fine. For those of us who have never
> seen a single issue but have always heard of them, POST THEM!
> What else are we going do with 150mb of empty space.
>
>
> Mark
>
Thanks for the response, Mark. I'll do my best to post 'em in the
near future.
You could try filling up your empty space by joining AOL and filling
it with their graphics :)
Bob Elliot (Liverpool, England)
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Subj: Re: Omaha Rainbow
Date: 97-02-03
From: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk (Bob Elliot)
I don't have Adobe Acrobat, Fred, but I don't think it would make
much difference.
Anyway, I am more concerned about the speed at which it downloads for
the likes of yourself and other JS fans rather than the time it takes
me to scan the pages, upload them, etc.
Thanks for your comments.
Bob Elliot
>
> I checked out Bob's jpg file of Omaha Rainbow and it loaded quickly and
> looked fine. What a mammoth task to scan in all those pages. Bob, have you
> looked in the Adobe Acrobat program for handling graphic files on the
> internet? I am not sure, but that program may make it easier to bundle
> multiple pages and allow quicker downloads. Just a thought. The file you
> put up took me back in time. It would be great to set up a JS archive .
>
> Fred
>
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Subj: Fwd: Re: Question
Date: 97-02-03
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
Dear bloodlines@world.std.com,
There's only one thing to do.
Forgiveness.
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From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
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To: bloodlines@world.std.com, bloodlines@world.std.com
Friends,
I have to apologize for my rather depressing "question"....I just felt
rather close to some of you, because we all love our man JS, and the
poingnat music he shares with us. I appreciate all your suggestions, and
have acted on some of them.
I couldn't figure out an easy way to "share" this devestating news with my
Bloodlines friends, so that was the method I chose.
The saddest part is that Randy is the one who introduced me to JS many years
ago, and we have been to every concert he's given in SoCal or Arizona in the
last 10 years or so. I will forever associate Randy with John Stewart
music, because we both love it so much, and that really bums me out.
But life goes on, eventually, and I will be fine someday. Thank you for all
your good wishes.
Nancy
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Subj: Oops! + itinerary
Date: 97-02-04
From: DBATTI@aol.com
I goofed...don't tell John, he loves to rub it in when I make a
mistake....The phone number for Maestro's in San Ramon is 855-0370. So if
you didn't figure that out when you got the wrong number, here it is....hope
to see you Sunday....The other future dates so far:
John Stewart will be appearing:
FEB 9 Maestro's San Ramon, CA 510-855-0370
MAR 2O Celebration Hall Arcata, CA
MAR 29 Wooden Dog Salt Lake City, UT 801-328-8889
APR 11 Club Passim 47 Palmer Street, Harvard Sq.,Cambridge, MA
APR 26 Capitola Theater Capitola, CA (408) 458-5057
Tickets available at BASS outlets.
More dates to be added...All dates are tentative...please call venue for more
info
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Subj: Elvis
Date: 97-02-04
From: Netennis@aol.com
I'm sitting here watching Elvis on TV (VH1). It's Elvis Week and they're
running all sorts of clips of Elvis. Much of it comes from the One Night
With You special that he did. I remember being very surprised when I first
saw this performance at how good a guitarist he was and how energy he created
with his playing.
I can see a lot of Elvis influence in the up-tempo tunes John plays - the
same energy and drive. I remember seeing John do a number of Elvis tunes
back in the 70's - great! It's a shame Elvis never did Runaway Fool of Love
- it would have been something to see!
I hope you all get a chance to check it out!
Gordon Kent
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Subj: Re: Question
Date: 97-02-04
From: Paul4500@aol.com
"Can't Go Back to Kansas" comes to mind:
"Time moves like a river...
You can either sink or swim
I wise man (woman) learns to forgive her (him)
For all she's (he's) done to him (her)."
Paul
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Subj: Joplin/New York
Date: 97-02-04
From: sprest02@sprynet.com (ALLMuse)
Please AngelBravo -
the name of the song you sang Friday night in Alexandria regarding
Joplin and New York?
Wish I could have stayed for Saturday...I hear Darwin's Army was
awesome!
Steve
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Subj: Untitled
Date: 97-02-04
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
Dear bloodlines@world.std.com,
How many of you guys going Maestros want to hear Darwins Army that night?
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