Bloodlines Mailing List archives February 10-11, 2000
from the John Stewart email list
bloodlines-digest Friday, February 11 2000 Volume 01 : Number 557
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Lordfrench@aol.com
Subject: Extended Songs & Le Box
RBW Robert...
Sorry about the delay in replying. Speaking about extended riffs on JS
songs, I agree that they're cool and would like to hear more of them. I
wanted the great guitar work on "China Sky" and "The River" (along with the
snythesizer line) on Secret Tapes I to go on and on. One invigorating; the
other so relaxing and peaceful.
Those lines could go on forever; or till the tape ends, whichever comes first.
Extended stuff in the Box mostly can be found in live performances, of
course. (Though in some of the experimental studio work, there are examples
of the riffs going on at some length as John is searching for the right feel
of a song.) I came across an extended live version of "18 Wheels" the other
day, two examples in fact, from the mid-80s, that goes for quite a
while--maybe 10-12 minutes.
I didn't hear the version in concert myself (one show was at Chuck's, I
think, the tape doesn't say, and the other was in Sweden or somewhere,
wherever "Ortbro" is, from July of 1985, and nobody is laughing at John's
jokes because they don't speak English; or at least I don't think they speak
English) but it's a cool and evolved version of "Wheels" with a long
instrumental beginning, hard-driving lyrics, then a long jazzlike riff with
the beat slowed way down, the sound level going down almost to nothing, then
the drums pick up the beat and it comes roaring back in.
The style is reminiscent of the way (speaking of extended JS) John and Joey
Harris used to perform "Big Horse" in the acoustic shows at McCabe's in '77
and '78, when they would swap guitar leads, then slow down to near silence,
and roar back. Those were as good as any live performances I've ever seen
John do. These shows also exist in the Box.
In live shows in the Box, there are also extended runs on Nashville and
Mazatlan (my favorite) and Big Horse when John and Joey were both playing
electric guitar. Joey's interpretations of John's songs were just terrific;
I loved them then and appreciate them even more now. The guy was firing
bullets.
Of course, the problem with live recordings is that so few of them are
quality sound. Most, though not all, were made by fans (me) at a front table
with a handheld recorder smuggled in to a club, or by someone recording a
show for John on his own handheld recorder, which he also smuggled into a
club. (I sat there throughout the entire Phoenix Concerts with my first Sony
handheld in my lap, enjoying the show and looking over my shoulder for the
Arizona Tape Police.) And you live in fear, of course, of having a really
great song caught at the end of one side and the beginning of the other.
Tape pirates soon learn to flip those babies over when there's about five
minutes to go.
Still, there are a lot of live shows and individual live cuts from the Box
that are worthy of getting out to the fanatics, some as part of an effort to
preserve certain songs that never made it to recordings otherwise. It's a
problem, as stated, in that the sound qualities vary so tremendously, and
such releases would only please the really hard-edged JS collector. (For
example, the only complete recording I have of the JS classic "Old Rivers and
Slow Moving Trains" done live at the Roxy in 1976, is only on one tinny
track. How that can be fixed or boosted I dunno.)
By the way, any rare beauties that anybody out there has collected can be
added to the Box, we accept all donations in our attempt to fully chronicle
John's work. If you think you have a copy or a rare or unheard JS song, or a
great live show, lemme know. (A few of our Bloodliner friends over in the
Isles have already made some very valuable contributions, helpful to the JS
sound chronicles.) For example, the never-formally-recorded Lilly and Joe
only stayed alive and came back to life in the '90s because out of the blue
John threw it into a live open air performance in Aspen in 1976, and some
drunk in the audience (me) had fast fingers and thus a great song was
preserved and lived to fight another day.
Hopefully, and maybe, once we get some of the studio quality TBTAMC work out
on CDs, there will come a time when the diehards can obtain some of the live
work. That will be up to John, of course.
LF
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Warren Serkin <wizardbard@home.com>
Subject: Re: Lyric Re-writes
"Cashman, Mark" wrote:
> OK, I'm going to risk it. All the recent well justified praise for CANNONS
> IN THE RAIN nevertheless has me thinking about a lyric that irks me whenever
> I hear it. It's this:
>
> Still you believe the thunder
> Are cannons in the rain
>
> "Are" is grammatically incorrect. It should be "Is."
>
> This one from "Irresistible Targets" also has me reaching for my mental red
> pencil whenever I hear it:
>
> And so it's up to you and I
> To beat our arms against the sky
> And to keep it flying
>
> It should be, "And so it's up to you and me." I know that screws up the
> rhyme, but my mother was an English teacher and I CANNOT LET THIS GO!
> There, that's done. Feel better now, Mom?
>
> Mark Cashman
Picky, picky, picky.
- --
Warren Serkin
ROCFAN1
ICQ#44183758
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: "Bob Elliot" <Bob@Bite-MyFoot.co.uk>
Subject: JS on UK TV
Hi
I've heard, on good authority, that John will be appearing on the UK
TV prog "Later with Jools Holland." However, I've been unable to
get confirmation on this. If anyone knows anything, please get in
touch.
Bob
==
Bite My Foot
http://www.bite-myfoot.co.uk
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Merle Stringfield <merles@qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: Lyric Re-writes
>OK, I'm going to risk it. All the recent well justified praise for CANNONS
>IN THE RAIN nevertheless has me thinking about a lyric that irks me whenever
>I hear it. It's this:
>
>Still you believe the thunder
>Are cannons in the rain
>
>"Are" is grammatically incorrect. It should be "Is."
Hi Mark,
The booklet from the CD "Cannons" (Bear Family #15519) indicates "Is" on
the inclosed lyric sheet, although John sings "are"...however, if you
assume thunder as plural, would it indicate that "are" is the correct
vernacular? Another line that John sings different than what is indicated in
the booklet is "Were cannons in the rain"...the booklet states "was"
Who says musicians aren't analytical??
'scuse me while I kiss the sky!
Merle
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Tim Riley <timr@ccna-nj.com>
Subject: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
Hey 'Liners,
This ought to start some conversation on the 'Lines. After about a year
and a half of off and on work, the John Stewart Lyrics Database is online
and ready to use. Before you jump right over there, some very special
thank yous are in order. First and foremost, to John for writing all of
these great songs. The next big thank you (and it is MAJOR) is to Mark
Austin for coordinating the massive job of transcribing all of the
lyrics. Mark had some other Liners who helped him with this and I will
leave it to him to identify this stalwart band. They worked diligently to
get all of these lyrics together and without their hard work, there would
not be a JSLDB.
I also would like to note that Mark and his group completed the job of
transcribing the lyrics almost a year ago. It has been solely my fault
that the database was not online sooner. I had to wrestle with a few
issues of money and software licensing which at one point forced me to
scrap what I had and start again in a different program. I also put some
serious goals on myself. I wanted the database to look great graphically
so John would not be embarrassed. And I wanted it to work simply and load
quickly even with a slow modem. I think you will all be pleased with the
results.
A big thank you to the one and only California Roadman for letting me use
his photographs of Johnny on the database site. They are the best.
Thanks also goes to a great group of beta testers who have been testing
the database for almost two weeks. They are (in no particular order):
Clack, AlleyCat, Roadman, StevenD, Mark Austin, Bob Elliot, Lordfrench,
"Dave", Michelle, my son Devin, and Angelbravo. They have given me
excellent feedback and what you will see today is vastly improved from
what we started with two weeks ago. Devin was particularly helpful in
testing and giving me daily feedback on the interface. (Hey, he's in
college and has the time)
You are going to love the results. Some of the feedback so far has been:
"This is f_______ fantastic. I have to go search some more" (alleycat)
"This is incredible! I'll use it more than any one.." (angelbravo)
"I'm amazed by the quality of it. How the hell'd you do that?"
(lordfrench)
Oh well, you get the picture. I won't bore you with more, but, one more
thing before you start searching. We are human. You may find typos. We
still have to add John's songs from the early Trio days and the
Cumberland Three. There are still some songs that don't have all of their
cross references to all of the recordings that they appear on. If you
find little things like that, email me at: oldriley@chillywinds.com and
let me know. I will be fixing up the little errors daily. I will let you
know that when we had problems with lyrics from recordings like Havana
that we just couldn't figure out, Johnny came to the rescue and filled in
the blanks. So this thing is pretty accurate.
There will be links to the database in upcoming days directly from
Clack's Cellar, Bob Elliot's UK site, and Michelle's chillywinds.com. In
the meantime, you Bloodliners can get a head start on everyone else by
typing this address into your web browser:
http://208.133.254.79/jslyrics/default.html
We haven't tested it under the load that I anticipate it will get
tonight. So, if you don't get in at some point, try again later.
Have fun everyone! It was fun to create!
Old Riley, your friendly acting list manager
"Only the dreamer understands."
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: alleycat@cruzio.com
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
Thanks to Tim and Mark and Devin and everyone else who helped put this
website together. It is so cool to be able to easily look up any lyrics
you want, including some of the unrecorded songs. The database is one of
the subjects we discussed when we were hanging out with John on Saturday
night. You guys are gonna love it! Go visit right now:
http://208.133.254.79/jslyrics/default.html
catherinerose
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Dean Pawlowic <xwdgp@TTACS.TTU.EDU>
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
Johnny, Tim, Mark et al:
Just logged on. Better than advertised. I suspected technology served some
purpose. This is it.
Dean
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Bob Pimentel <robpl@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Just a teaser
- --- Tim Riley <timr@ccna-nj.com> wrote:
> Hey 'Liners,
>
> Check your Bloodlines mail sometime around 4PM EST
> today for some really
> cool news!
I just did, and I take it that you are referring to
the John Stewart lyric database. I think its great.
Maybe now we can open up that "Last Hurrah" discussion
again. It definitely helps having the words right in
front of you. Thanks again to those involved.
Bob Pimentel
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: JStoreyBR5@aol.com
Subject: Re: Buck Wheat/Dean Dean
No that was said of Dean Reiley. Does anybody know what happed to him?
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: "Rick Godwin" <ricksteraz1@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
A stupendously-super job, my friend !
It's a first class job. Certainly raises the quality bar in the
*sites-developed-by-members* category...
The graphics and opening text setup the database content extremely well.
Let's everyone know this thing is ORGANIZED !!
I'll second your thanks to everyone involved, too. You guys really nailed it
with the details...
Just allow me, if I may, to add another name to the *credits*:
That of Del Lausa....
... for it was mainly her efforts (with help from TF, JS and others) some
years ago that gave us the lyrics to about 40+ songs. These made up a good
part of the content of one of the very early JS websites: **WONDRDOG *. And
I believe Mark used some of Del's work to help kick off this project.
RG
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Rodney Hamon <rodney@lubbock.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Roxy Gordon
The incredibly talented Texan/Native American poet Roxy Gordon
died the day before yesterday. Another true original gone.
- --
Rodney
rodney@lubbock.demon.co.uk
http://www.lubbock.demon.co.uk
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: "Virginia Brennan" <b.virginia@chickmail.com>
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
To all who put this together:
Nice Job and Thanks!
Virginia
- --
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000
From: "MARTIN LLOYD" <martin.lloyd@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
A big thank you for all the work put into lyrics database site - the hours
of dedicated input has paid off !!
Are there any plans to develop this even further ? Perhaps put on some
chords so we can play along as well as sing along ?
Martin Lloyd
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Tim Riley <timr@ccna-nj.com>
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
>Are there any plans to develop this even further ? Perhaps put on some
>chords so we can play along as well as sing along ?
For the time being, you will have to use the Print Detail to print out
the lyrics and then write in your chords. That is what the Print Detail
was intended for.
To put chords in the database, they would have to be imbedded (maybe in
parenthesis) in the lyrics. Might be confusing, but, certainly worth
discussing.
Old Riley, your friendly acting list manager
"Only the dreamer understands."
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Omallory@aol.com
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
Fantastic resource for lots of reasons, but as a writer I will love being
able to access this site to quote JS lyrics in articles and books. . . (I'll
get JS permission before doing so at any great length, of course).
Mitch
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Patrick Denny <pdenny@mediaone.net>
Subject: Ian, the teacher
God bless you. Gutsy thing to do. Best wishes in your quest to make a
difference!
> So I've decided to take the leap of faith, and become a high school
> English teacher. As of March 1, I'll no longer be at Folk Era as I
> begin my student teaching.
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: sunpie@webtv.net (Caron Bukowski)
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
GREAT JOB!! I used to really enjoy reading the lyrics on the albums
when they were available. I know, sometimes the lyrics are still
printed in the CD's. The ironic thing is, when I was younger, my sight
was good, and albums were big enough to really see the print. Now it's
all small print on the CD's, and my eyes aren't near what they used to
be.
Now I can really enjoy reading the lyrics again!!! Thanks to all who got
the job done!
Caron
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Spencer Lewis <quartz2@sover.net>
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
To all involved with the data base of lyric's:
THANK YOU
I am now ready to try and survive the darkest night by singing
"Remembering the Sun."
SL
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: RTFAL@aol.com
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
Tim
Absolutely first class! A great tribute to JS. All of you did a terrific job
in setting this down in one place for posterity.
Art
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Kent Martin <martink@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
>This ought to start some conversation on the 'Lines.
Stunning, abso-flat-lutely stunning in its completeness and its simplicity.
Beautiful work, all involved ... but a BIG hats-off to Tim and Mark.
This may be the the biggest thing we've done on these 'Lines since ... well
... since John got his banjo back! ('Course, that was a whole 'nother
matter on its won ... )
GO 'LINERS!
Birdman
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: MJones5261@aol.com
Subject: Re: Extended Songs & Le Box
In a message dated 2/10/0 12:54:06 PM, Lordfrench@AOL.COM writes:
<<For example, the never-formally-recorded Lilly and Joe
only stayed alive and came back to life in the '90s because out of the blue
John threw it into a live open air performance in Aspen in 1976, and some
drunk in the audience (me) had fast fingers and thus a great song was
preserved and lived to fight another day.>>
It's scary to think that such a great song was almost lost forever. I'm so
pleased that Lordfrench has the box material and is working to preserve it. I
know it's a lot of time and work transferring the songs from tape to cd's but
it's so important to us fans and admirers of Johns art. Just knowing that
this stuff exists is exciting, every time Lordfrench posts he always just
makes me crave the box material more and more.
Matt (chomping at the bit for the box) Carava
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Rich <nocknock@pacbell.net>
Subject: I are speaking write
Mark,
You GOT to let it go man. It AIN'T right to worry about such things.
ME feels it's more important to get the idea across, even if you fudge
on grammar.
Remember, if it makes it thru spellcheck, it is good enough for I.
Shirt Guy
p.s. Anna probably woke up IN a train, not ON it, but hey, better than
UNDER it :)
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: "Mike Armstrong" <mikearm@netcom.ca>
Subject: JS Database
To the contributers, helpers, testers & everyone else who had a part in
putting this database together - GREAT job & MANY thanks.
MikeArm
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: ClackClack@aol.com
Subject: Re: Lyric Re-writes
CashmanM@coned.com writes:
> This one from "Irresistible Targets" also has me reaching for my mental red
> pencil whenever I hear it:
>
> And so it's up to you and I
> To beat our arms against the sky
> And to keep it flying
>
> It should be, "And so it's up to you and me." I know that screws up the
> rhyme, but my mother was an English teacher and I CANNOT LET THIS GO!
Oh to dream what might have been ... and I do not know what Mott would do
without his Mott-o.... if we insisted on proper grammar ....
And so it's up to you and me
to beat our arms against the sea
and keep it swimming
Just doesn't quite have the same effect does it?
Thanks for the post Mark.
Ron
still in search of the lost chord
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Fiverowley@aol.com
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
To all involved in creating the database: This is just too cool!
Outstanding job!!!
---Lefty
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Tim Riley <timr@ccna-nj.com>
Subject: The John Stewart Lyrics Database web address
To anyone who missed the address, go to:
http://208.133.254.79/jslyrics/default.html
Tim (Old) Riley, your friendly acting list manager
"Only the dreamer understands"
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: KWilli3333@aol.com
Subject: Re: I are speaking write
<< Remember, if it makes it thru spellcheck, it is good enough for I. >>
Shirt-guy's right, sometimes ya gotta take some poetic lie sents.
* *karen love-that-lyric-database williams
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: "Sweet Basil" <sweetbasil@sweetbasilgourmet.com>
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
What a labor of LOVE.
(And the data are all there:-)
Thanks, All!
John
John Sullivan
sweetbasil@sweetbasilgourmet.com
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: Lorie and Ben <lrblake@snet.net>
Subject: Anna On a Memory
Wow! Anna has always been one of my favorite songs (I prefer the
original Capitol Chip Douglas produced version, one of the best tracks
our Johnny ever laid down), but I can't say I have ever found any
optimism in the lyrics. But then I can't see any MLK or RFK references
in The Last Hurrah, either. Always thought that one was about John's
recording career. Swift Lizard, of course, was about the heartbreak of
psoriasis.
Old Ben
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000
From: "Del Lausa" <delausa@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: Lyric Re-writes
Brave, Mark. Once in a while it strikes me how incredibly few of these
there are among the thousands of lines John's written and recorded. And
they usually still track better than any re-write I can think of. I can
only be grateful that John didn't give in to grammatical correctness and
deprive us of one of the best lines since Shakespeare. I guess sometimes
you can be either correct or brilliant.
- --del
> OK, I'm going to risk it. All the recent well justified praise for CANNONS
> IN THE RAIN nevertheless has me thinking about a lyric that irks me whenever
> I hear it.
> And so it's up to you and I
> To beat our arms against the sky
> And to keep it flying
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000
From: AlanW <alanwil@pd.jaring.my>
Subject: Re: BIG NEWS!! The John Stewart Lyrics Database is online!
A sensational site. Congratulations to Mark, Tim and everyone else who
played a part. I'm going to be visiting it so often. It's a dream come to
life. It's a ticket to the stars.
Right, now I can get picky. In the "Fire in the Wind" lyrics, the fourth
verse is listed as:
"Her dress was long, too small for her
And tight as midnight light..."
For the life of me I can't hear the first "her". I listened to the line
several times driving to work this morning. I'm convinced what John says
is, "Dress was long..." not "Her dress was long..."
Or maybe I just need a bigger ear-trumpet.
Alan
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000
From: "Tom Thomas" <tom.thomas@the-spa.com>
Subject: Grammatic Music Lyrics
Mark Cashman wants to grab his red pencil when he hears the language abused
in music.
Me too! (Did I really type that?)
I hear "Wish I was a headlight on a west-bound train" and I yell at my tape
deck "'Wish I WERE a headlight', use the subjunctive!"
My all-time favorite was in the Johnny Maestro and the Brooklyn Bridge song,
also covered by the Fifth Dimension, "The Worst That Could Happen", where
the singer laments his lover's impending marriage to another with the
comment "Girl, if he loves you more than me", and I wanted to change it to
"If he loves you more than I", unless he was describing a very different
situation entirely.
Tom Thomas
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000
From: ClackClack@aol.com
Subject: other artists cover Stewart tunes
Been a while since I posted the list - This actually resides in the Cellar at
http://members.aol.com/clackclack/discog5.htm complete with a number of
photos, and I do have a couple notes buried with details that I need to add
to the list.
Anyways.... Here is the latest list I have collected of all known covers of
Stewart songs. John mentioned being surprised at the list of how many covers
there were (when our little group talked after the show in Santa Cruz).
Personally I think there should be a heck of a lot more covers! I always
appreciate hearing any additions to the list. If you know some, or additional
details, please send them.
- -Ron
Covered Songs
Eddy Arnold - July, You're A Woman, Some Lonesome Picker, and She Believes
In Me (from his album "Standing Alone", RCA LSP-4390 )
Arranmore - Dreamers on the Rise (from the CD "By Request", Folk Era
FE-1418CD, 1995)
The Association - Little Road and a Stone To Roll (from the lp "Waterbeds In
Trinidad!",Columbia, KC31348, 1972)
Joan Baez - Strange Rivers (from the CD, "Play Me Backwards", Guardian,
54615, 1992 )
Beat Farmers - Never Goin' Back (from "Tales of the New West", Rhino Records
lp, RNLP 853, 1985)
Harry Belafonte - Missouri Birds (from the lp "Belafonte-By Request" RCA
LSP-4301, 1970)
Totte Bergstrom - "It Ain't the Gold" (from self-titled CD on Folk Era,
FE1433CD, (1998?))
Gordon Bok - Little Road and a Stone To Roll (from the CD "Return to the
Land", Folk Legacy, 1991)
Bev Bos and Michael Leeman and Tom Hunter -Little Road and a Stone To Roll
from the cassette album "Memories"
Pat Boone - Never Goin' Back and July, You're A Woman
(lp-Departure1969,Tetragrammaton 118), (July, You're A Woman also on
CD/cassette "More Greatest Hits", Varese Vintage, 1994)
Boyzone - Daydream Believer - from a German (and Irish and ???) CD single
Ed Bruce - July, You're A Woman (1973 single)
Rosanne Cash - Runaway Train (from "King's Record Shop", Columbia lp FC
40777, 1987), Dance With The Tiger (duet with John -from "Interiors",
Columbia CD CK46079)
Classics IV - Daydream Believer (from the lp "Spooky", Imperial/Liberty
records LP12371)
Cosmo Alpha - Daydream Believer - (from the CD "Music for a Summer's Day"
Denon 8508)
John Davidson - July, You're A Woman, California Bloodlines (CB appears on a
Columbia 45- 44896 as well as the Columbia lp, "My Cherie Amour")
Darren Day - Daydream Believer (appears on a self-titled CD, 1998)
Howard Dickinson - July, You're Woman, Mother Country, and Cody from the lp,
"Cody-Songs I Learned on my Mother's Knee and Other Low Joints", CODY label)
Dolenz, Jones, Boyce And Hart - Daydream Believer (from the CD, "Concert In
Japan", Varese Sarabande Records, VSD-5625,1996; originally appeared on the
lp "Concert in Japan" Toshiba-EMI ECS-91018, 1981, from a concert recorded
7/20/76)
Four Tops - Daydream Believer (from several releases, including the lp, "The
Look of Love", and the lp "Yesterdays Dreams" on Tamla Motown, TML11087,1968)
Vince Gill - July, You're A Woman (rumored as a very early release)
"Girls Night Out" with Sara Evans, Martina McBride, Lorrie Morgan and Mindy
McCReady - Daydream Believer (1999)
Nanci Griffith - Sweet Dreams Will Come (duet with John, from CD "Little Love
Affairs" -MCAD-42102, 1988)
Robert Goulet - July, You're A Woman (from the lp, "After All is Said and
Done" Artists of America, AOA5003, 1976 and the CD/cassette, "The Best of
Robert Goulet", Curb Records, 1990)
The Heightsmen - Oh Miss Mary (from the Imperial lp HA-P8067/UK 1963)
Ronnie Hawkins - Eighteen Wheels (from the lp, "A Legend in His Spare Time",
Quality#SV2092, 1981, A Canadian album)
Davy Jones - Daydream Believer ( from the lp, Bell Records #6067, 1971)
Jay & the Americans - Chilly Winds (from the album "Sunday and Me", United
Artists UAS6474, UAL3474, 1966)
Fats Johnson - Mother Country and a medley of California Bloodlines/Ribbon of
Darkness (Lightfoot) (from the lp, "Big, Bad and Beautiful----Live In
Concert" on Air International label ARG10012)
Journeymen - Oh Miss Mary, Don't Turn Around (from the CD "Capitol Collectors
Series", 1992 and "The Very Best of the Journeymen, 1998, Collectables
Records) Don't Turn Around also appeared on several Capitol 45's and an LP
of the same name.
Kentucky Express - Never Goin' Back
Johnathon King - Mother Country
Tony Kosinec - A Little Road and a Stone to Roll (single 45, GRT label,1974,
maybe produced by Peter Asher)
Frankie Laine - California Bloodlines
Limelighters - Headin' for the Hills (from the lp, "Tonight: In Person", RCA,
LPM-2272, 1961)
Lord Sitar - Daydream Believer
Lobo - Armstrong and Daydream Believer (from the lp, "Just A Singer", Big
Tree Records, BT89501, 1974)
Lorne Lofsky - Daydream Believer (from the CD, "Bill, Please", Jazz
Inspiration, 1995?)
Lovin' Spoonful - Never Goin' Back (appears on "The Very Best of the Lovin'
Spoonful", Kama Sutra lp KSBS 2013 and "The Best of the Lovin' Spoonful
- -Volume Two", Rhino Records, RNLP 114, 1984 and "The Lovin Spoonful
Anthology",CD,1990, and "Collectors Edition, Vol 1, CD, BMG special products,
DRC1-1471, 1997) - John Stewart plays rhythm guitar on the cut.
Mailer MacKenzie Band - The Lady And The Outlaw - from self-titled album,
Ampex A10114, and a 45 on Ampex Records # 11014 (It has a notation "Licensed
from N.V. Phonogram, Holland", and the producer seems to be Dutch (Hans Van
Hemert))
Tommy Makem - Little Road and a Stone To Roll (from the CD/cassette "Live at
The Irish Pavillion", Schanachie, 1993)
Man Size Job - Daydream Believer (from the CD, "Here No Evil: A Tribute To
The Monkees", Long Play Records, 1992)
Jeff McDonald - Odin:Spirit of the Water (from the CD Glorious Black and
White, Folk Era, 1995)
Barry McGuire - Oh Miss Mary (lp unknowm, but it appears on the CD "Sings" on
the french label Spalax CD14528 and I have been advised on an unknown
recording called "The Eve of Destruction Man")
Midget - Daydream Believer (from the CD, "The Lost World")
Modern Folk Quartet - Road to Freedom (Warner Bros. W-1511, mono lp, 1963)
Monkees -Daydream Believer (from "The Birds, The Bees & The Monkees", Colgems
COS109 Stereo,1968); (the 45 is on Colgems 66-1012, it has appeared on
various Monkee's song collections including the CD "Greatest Hits" on Arista)
Peter Morse - Come Along Julie - from the album "Goin Down To Town", Phillips
PHS 600-059, 1962
Anne Murray - Daydream Believer - (on the album "I'll Always Love You",
Capitol 12012, 1978, and "Somebody's Waiting, Capitol 12064, 1980, as well
as various collections)
The New Kingston Trio - "Oldest Living Son" From the album "The Lost Masters,
1969 - 1972" (Folk Era Records; #FE1431CD; no copyright date given)
New Lost City Ramblers - Chilly Winds
Nina & Fredrick (danish folk duo) July, You're A Woman
Osmonds - Chilly Winds from the album "Homemade", MGMSE-4770, 1973?, and the
MGM 45 - 14259 (flip side "Double Lovin'"); also appeared on the Japanese lp,
"The Best of the Osmonds", 1971?
PJ Proby - Three Week Hero (from the lp "Three Week Hero", Liberty LBS83219,
1969, also on CD)
Red, White and Blue (Grass) - July You're A Woman
The Residents - Daydream Believer (from the CD "Residue Deux", East Side
Digital, 1998)
Shane Ritchie - Daydream Believer (from the Cassette "The Album", Universal
Music Tv)
Robson & Jerome - Daydream Believer (from self-titled CD, RCA, 1995)
Jimmy Rodgers - Come Along Julie, Brave New Land (from "At Home with Jimmie
Rodgers - An Evening of Folk Songs" LP- Roulette r-25128)
Gamble Rogers - July, You're A Woman from the CD "The Lord Gives Me Grace,
And The Devil Gives Me Style" (OK 1001), and the lp of the same name on
Mountain Railroad Records (1977) dist. by Flying Fish; Mother Country (may
only have been performed in concert)
Kevin Rowland (of Dexy's Midnight Runners) - Daydream Believer from the CD
"My Beauty", 1999
Sangsters - Some Kind of Love (from the CD "Begin", Greentrax 65, 1993 or
1994)
The Seekers - Chilly Winds from the CD set, "The Complete Seekers",
Australian import - not sure if this is credited to, and Stewart's version of
the song
The Serendipity Singers - Down Where the Winds Blow(Chilly Winds) possibly on
the album The Many Sides of the Serendipity Singers lp - not sure if this is
credited to Stewart
Shaw Brothers - Road to Freedom, California Bloodlines; Cody - (Cody appears
on the Folk Era CD, "Collection" FE-2041CD, 1986)
Shonen Knife - Daydream Believer (from the CD Happy Hour,1998) and a CD
single (BGD-P55-2)
Spirit of John Morgan - Friend of Jesus
Bill Staines - Chilly Winds (from the CD "Going To The West", Red House
Records, RHR CD 56, 1993)
"Big" Jim Sullivan - Lonesome Picker (from self-titled lp on Playboy records,
1972, PB-103)
U2 - Daydream Believer has appeared on various live concert CD's from the
Popmart tour (1997)
Violent Femmes - Daydream Believer (from the lp "Les Enfants Du Rock 'n'
Roll", 1985)
We Five - Never Goin' Back (from the lp "Catch the Wind",Vault SLP-136); Poet
(from the lp "Make Someone Happy". A & M SP4138); I Can Never Go Home Again,
Love Me Not Tomorrow, and If I Were Alone (co-written with brother Michael
Stewart, a member of the group) (from the lp, "You Were On My Mind", A & M
SP4111)
West - July You're A Woman, Looking Back Johanna (1968 or 1969 - John's
brother, Michael was a member of this group which released two albums, "West"
and "Bridges")
White Mountain Singers - Wings of St. Michael and Zapatta (from lp "Sunrise",
Takoma TAK-7117, Feb 1984), Road to Freedom
John Wilkinson - July You're A Woman (on a 45 - RCA 479692)
Kate Wolf - Some Kind of Love (from the 2 lp set, Give Yourself to
Love(1983), reissued as a CD-Kaleidoscope K-3000, and later reissued on
Rhino)
Glenn Yarbrough - Friend of Jesus (from "GY and the Havenstock River Band",
also the album "Joy Across The Land" - Glenn Yarbrough & The Limeliters (On
CD by: GNP/Cresendo Records; #GNPD 2219; copyright 1993) NOTE: liner notes
say this was recorded in the Fall of 1973 at Orchestra Hall, Chicago; Some
Lonesome Picker; Where Are You Goin' With The Rain (from "Live at the Hungry
i"), (possibles: Great White Cathedrals, The Last Campaign, and She Believes
In Me) (album "Jubilee", Warner Bros, 1826,stereo,1970)
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000
From: Kent Martin <martink@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Grammatic Music Lyrics
At 01:11 AM 2/11/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Mark Cashman wants to grab his red pencil when he hears the language abused
>in music.
>My all-time favorite was in the Johnny Maestro and the Brooklyn Bridge song,
>also covered by the Fifth Dimension, "The Worst That Could Happen" ...
Well, if we're goin' down this thread, might as well toss in my own grammar
nit to pick ... not with Johnny, mind you (somehow his few-'n-far-between
grammar lapses slipped in one ear and out the other, not that there was much
to stop 'em in between):
Always perked an ear when "Live and Let Die" hit the radio way back when and
Paul McCartney sang what I THOUGHT was:
"And in this ever-changing world in which we live in ... " carried one too
many "in"s for my taste, until I re-listened and figured he might be
singing, " ... in which we're living." Finally gave up trying to decide and
thought I'd just go along for the ride anyway.
Birdman
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000
From: Lordfrench@aol.com
Subject: BIG NEWS!! and yet more Boxing
Tim and all...
Great job on the database. Have to tell you a story that indicates that
having the lyrics will be of value in surprising ways.
As he was going out the door Saturday for Santa Cruz, John called me and
asked if I remembered the lyrics to Evangeline. He wanted to sing it for
Catherine (it's one of her favorites) on her birthday at the show. I said,
"I think so....wait...it's 'Evangeline waits, from her window she stares...'
uh...no, wait...is that the verse or the chorus?" We kept going back and
forth trying to get it right, until I said "Aw the hell with it, she loves
Cowboy in the Distance too. Happy Birthday would also work." I think
you'll find JS availing himself of the new database along with the rest of us.
Tomorrow I'm over-nighting another MiniDisc of TBTAMC material to John for
his perusal and, hopefully, eventual use. I've kind of grouped the first two
JS discs into two categories that I think would make great individual
releases--"Songs from 1976" (two large groups of unreleased demos from the
spring and fall of that year) and the one that goes out tomorrow, "Early
'80s."
I wasn't going to list the material here, but what the hell, many of you are
as into this as I am, and it does indeed whet the appetite. I don't think
John would mind. Here's the grouping for a suggested TBTAMC CD from the
Early '80s period, very uptempo and edgy stuff, which I suspect might be the
first Box release, the fastball before the knuckler:
- --Rockin' as the Night Rolls On
- --Escape of Old John Webb
- --One Shining Day
- --Molly Dee
- --Same Old Heart
- --Under Heavy Fire
- --All the Desperate Men
- --Run Molly Run
- --Wimoweh
- --Tears of the Sun
- --High Flying Eagle
- --Kansas
- --Border Line
- --Movers and Shakers
- --Field Where the Angels Dance
- --Keeper of the Flame
- --Endless Roads and Northern Lights
- --Ticket to the Wind
- --Hot on the Trail of the Clowns
- --American Way
That's 20 cuts, and as I told Catherine the Top Cat in an e-mail a bit
earlier tonight, a good 12-14 of them are absolutely terrific, with the
others being merely real good. I imagine, I hope, that John will pick 15 or
16 of them for a release. I think it could comprise an album that a lot of
JS fans will put among their top favorites. I think it was Rod Geddes, who
has heard some of the material over the years, who said of this stuff "You
ain't heard nothin' yet," and I believe you'll agree.
Any familiar titles indicate different versions of JS songs from those that
have been released. American Way, for example, could not be any more
different than the Trancas version. Fields Where the Angels Dance was an
early and different form of Queen of Hollywood High. The Trio songs--John
Webb, JS's Molly Dee, Run Molly--are really cool--hard driving folk music,
sometimes with electric guitars (and a great banjo on John Webb.) Wimoweh is
a real hoot, John ripping into that in the Trio style with an electric guitar
kicker. Keeper of the Flame is a different version than the Bandera cut;
it's an at-home recording, I think, almost like a garage tape, done with
acoustic guitar and Buffy and friend Margot Jones singing background, with
the tune similar to that of "Across the Milky Way." It's a knockout.
As always, it'll be up to John to decide if, what, and when. The good news
is that I sent him a sampler of this material last week--American Way, Heavy
Fire, Northern Lights, and Clowns--and it knocked him out. He loved it, he
was surprised at how good it sounded. I, of course, was shocked that he
liked it. I'm hoping for more shocks.
LF
- --Should add that "Kansas" is to die for. It's the impassioned studio
version of the classic (Can't Go Back to) Kansas that was performed at the
Kingston Trio Reunion in 1981, with differing lyrics and electric guitar, and
runs over five minutes.
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