Bloodlines Mailing List archives June 23-25, 1997
from the John Stewart email list
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bloodlines-digest Wednesday, June 25 1997 Volume 01 : Number 025
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: alleycat@cruzio.com
Subject: Re: Michelle's house.../with Apologies
David L. Taylor wrote:
> That's ok Liza. Salida sounds great.
I think the nicest thing about Salida is the fact that it's where Liza
lives; makes me wanna move there.
Michelle wrote:
> I'm starting to reject the idea of CA as "the promised land".
Michelle, there is no promised land. California is a great place to
live, but yes, it is more expensive than other states. Some areas are
less expensive and less crowded.....check out the Sierra Foothills or
north around Arcata/Eureka.
Nick wrote:
> I'm not sure what you were looking for in California. There are still
> a lot of places on the west coast that are like California was 35 years ago.
Take Nick's advice and look around a little more before you give up. I
know I can safely volunteer our buddy Ron as a source of advice about
different areas of the state, and E-mail me privately if I can help.
To the rest of you I apologize for doing this through the list, but I am
a native born Californian and I cannot leave my beloved home state
publicly undefended......California bloodlines you know.
Catherine who was born in the shadow of the Golden Gate Bridge
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: Danhodges@aol.com
Subject: Re: "Closet" music
Another Rick Nelson fan here - loved the James Burton guitar work on most
of his best songs....
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: California Housing Prices
I was in Eureka and Arcata CA last year about this time.
Eureka is on the North Coast of California and I was told that the housing
prices weren't bad. Humboldt County is one heck of a place.
Eureka has a lot of really great restaurants for a town its size, and it is not
what I would consider objectionably far from S.F.
NED.
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Michelle's house...
If you're feelin' eastern, I'll give my home state of Ohio a plug.
JS even sings about it! I call it the "generic state", everything you need
at a lower cost. If you are near any of the 3 major cities, you can get
almost anything you want and prices are low (bought gas for $1.05 in Akron
Sunday). If you like live music, there is no shortage of shows here.
Unfortunately most of the scenery is bland, 3/4 of the state is flat, it is
hot and humid in the summer and lots of snow in the winter. It's the strip
mall capital, but we do have a north coast! (hmmm, how much was that house
in Califonria again??!!)
NED
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: griffter1@webtv.net (Dick Griffith)
Subject: Re: At It Again
What about us Cots?
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: John Stewart on the radio in Chicago
Kudos to WFMT!
At 10:35 AM 6/23/97 -0600, you wrote:
>As promised, John Stewart was indeed played on the "Midnight Special" radio
>show on WFMT (98.7 FM) last Saturday night. Spirit of the Road and Neon Road
>were played as part of a set of "road songs," and they sounded great. The
>host also praised the songs and plugged Rough Sketches.
>
>Just thought you might like to know.
>
>David Detmer
>
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Phoenix Concert LPs
I just finally listened to the second LP of the Phoenix Concerts. I bought
it last week for $7 and it looks like it was never played. I am normally
dubious of the quality RCA Victor's Orange Label Vinyl pressings, normally
they sound flat and compressed, but I can't say that about this set. Much
better than I expected. I supposed I should give credit to the sound
engineer. I expect it to get a lot of play! You can really hear the
excitement in everybody's performance.
NED.
:-)
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: At It Again
At 07:44 PM 6/23/97 -0500, you wrote:
>What about us Cots?
>
Lying down on the job again?!
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: griffter1@webtv.net (Dick Griffith)
Subject: Re: John Stewart on the radio in Chicago
WFMT syndicates the "Midnight Special" nationally, although the
playlists are slightly different from the Chicago show and air dates are
different.
Their website, which lists the radio stations that carry the show, is at
www.shout.net/special.
Check it out...you too might hear "Spirit of the Road" and "Neon Road"
on the radio!
Big thanks to Ian at Folk Era who, I believe, sent Rich Warren a review
copy of Rough Sketches.
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: "Ronald A. Fleshman" <insman@citynet.net>
Subject: Re: Last Hurrah
FWIW. I always thought the song was about the Kennedy's -- especially
Bobby and Martin Luther King. John travelled with Bobby on that "last
hurrah." The lyrics just fit.
Ron
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
Subject: Re: Michelle's house...
Ned sed...
(hmmm, how much was that house
>in Califonria again??!!)
The median price for a 4 bdrm home in Sonoma County is $289,000. I agree
with David about the people and taxes... anyone ever been to Keene, NH? I'd
love to know what it's like... heard some good things about it. Money
magazine came out with their "Best Places to Live" issue just in time for
me to reevaluate this move. Hmmmm.
Michelle Stevens,
Your friendly webmistress and Bloodlines mailing list manager
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
http://www.concentric.net/~ddunet/ (John Stewart Web Site)
bloodlines@world.std.com (John Stewart Internet Mailing List)
mstevens@world.std.com or ddunet@concentric.net
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
"An angel on the road shoulder knows the way home"
- --JS
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997
From: ClackClack@aol.com
Subject: Rick Nelson
One of these days....
One of my planned spots on Clack's Cellar will be a photo gallery of other
artists that I have photographed. I took some pictures of Rick Nelson I think
in July 79. I've put one up in the cellar if you'd like a look:
http://members.aol.com/clackclack/rnelson.jpg
Also, Rick had a really nice album out about the time of Fire In The Wind. It
was called "Intakes".
Ron
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: WardHorde@aol.com
Subject: Re: Closet Music and Guilty Pleasures
Some of my guilty pleasures include "Afternoon Delight" by the Starland Vocal
Band and "Red Roses For A Blue Lady", the first record I ever owned, given to
me by me Dad when he bought me my first record player in the 50's.
As far as Rick Nelson is concerned, he should not be a "guilty" pleasure.
While he certainly started out as the godfather of the Shaun and David
Cassidy school, he was and remained a seminal rocker and singer. Remove your
guilt and be liberated!!
I actually had tickets to Rick's show in Dallas the night he died but gave
them to a friend when I learned that my Grandmother had died earlier in the
evening and had to make plans to go to Kansas for the funeral. I've always
gotten some ...pleasure is not the right word, maybe satisfaction....that my
Grandmother was standing next to Rick in line at the Pearly Gates saying "You
know, my grandson used to really love watching you sing on your Dad and Mom's
show. You seemed like such a nice boy."
Marty
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: PBronson1@aol.com
Subject: Re: A Night of a Thousand Trains. . .and 29 Loyal Friends. )
Reminds me of the night I saw Arlo Guthrie at the Greek Theatre in L.A.
There was a brush fire going, over the hill behind the stage, and the fire
dept. was dropping chemicals. Guthrie was about to sing a song--can't
remember the title--containing the line "Jesus going to make you well."
Before he started, he told the audience to pay attention, because something
weird always happens when he gets to that line. Well, when he got there, one
of the fire dept. helicopters put on its spotlight and illuminated the hill.
The crowd gasped; must have been a lot like the scene you've described.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: DBATTI@aol.com
Subject: Angelbravo KOd by Bloodlines
Yo Bloods,
Just got off the phone with John...he's still in AZ...said that the
Bloodlines e-mail was too much for his Magic Link and it just blew up...I
know funny and that's funny...he is off-line until he gets back to
NorCal....maybe he should go to the digest?
I did mention the post about Carmen to John and he (we) wanted to say that
our thoughts and prayers are with her.
BTW, I love California, and unless someone offers me a huge gig, would never
leave...Michelle, come and move in my 'hood...all the houses are under
200,000 (it's where all the poor teacher/musicians live)! Of course, it's
not Beverly Hills (it's not even Burbank), but it is home.
Robert Hilburn (one of John's champions in the 60s & 70s) mentioned Davy &
Daydream Believer in his LA Times U2 review but didn't mention John as the
writer...there is no justice....no justice no peace.....Dave
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: Ian Ashton <i.ashton@Bradford.ac.uk>
Subject: Tish Hinojosa [0% Stewart]
Someone recommended a couple of Tish Hinojosa ( is that the correct spelling?)
albums recently and I've lost the message.
Can anyone oblige?
TIA, Ian
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: Terry Tillman <TTillman@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: "Closet" music
I'm adding my name to the list of Ricky Nelson fans. I thought he was very
cool (that's a word that was as "in" in the 50's as it is today). First saw
him perform in Portland, Oregon in 1959. A friend and I mistakenly drove
onto the runway at the airport as he was departing his plane. He defended
us against the police guards who were there to protect him from thousands
of screaming fans. He said hello and saw to it that we were given tickets
to his concert. My favorite part of Ozzie and Harriet was when Ricky sang.
The last song of his I remember hearing was "Dream Lover" around 1979. I
didn't understand why it wasn't a hit (again). "Poor Little Fool" was
another of my all time favorites--C, A, F & G--A winning chord sequence for
many a rock 'n roll hit.
On that same 1959 trip to Portland I was rummaging through records in the
Folk section of a record store when I was drawn to a deep look in the eyes
on one of the faces in a trio called The Cumberland Three. The look was
that of young John Stewart. I was learning to play the 5-string banjo at
the time (from a Pete Seeger book and Earl Scruggs records). Stewart was
holding a banjo so I bought the album. I've bought every album he's been on
since.
When Dave Guard quit the Kingston Trio (1961 I believe), I was attending
Stanford. I went up to Berkley to see the original Trio's last show (before
Dave Guard left) at the Berkley Community Theater. After the show I went
back stage and talked to both Dave Guard and Nick Reynolds about
auditioning with them--after all I was a banjo player from Stanford,
naively thinking that qualified me. I didn't get the audition. They asked
me what my draft status was and said they already had a couple candidates
in mind, someone (whose name I don't remember...Cyrus Fariar?) from the
Modern Folk Quartet I think, and John Stewart.
I later dropped out of college to surf the Folk Music wave and sing with a
band I started in High School, the Fairmount Singers. The Fairmounts had
one minor regional hit on Dot Records, "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"
(Later covered by Gene Pitney), and were part of the start of the New
Christy Minstrels. We were living in Randy Spark's house in Tarzana at the
time. We called it "The Folk House" as it was one of the hangouts of the
folk scene in Los Angeles in those days. We traveled for a year with Jimmie
Rodgers (of Honeycomb fame) as his opening act and backup. Tim Hardin (who
we grew up with) was our vocal arranger for a period.
In those days only a few people were becoming both singers _and_
songwriters--Bob Dylan, Neal Diamond, Randy Sparks, John Stewart... and
later the Beattles. Prior to about 1960 musicians were either writers or
performers, rarely both. Reponding to Randy's encouragement I wrote one
song, "Walk the Road", a spiritual that the Christys opened their show with
for years. I stopped writing when my dad jumped on me saying I'd never
support myself as a writer, or in the music business. So I went back to
finish college. I've often wondered how my life would have been different
had I not listened to other's opinions.
My memories of that period are still vivid and fond. Lots of experiences,
adventures and stories. The Fairmount Singers were singing at the Troubador
one time when John Stewart and Bob Shane came in. After the last show one
evening I remember John showing us a couple new songs he thought we'd like.
As I remember he was suggesting we use them in our show and record them.
The songs were, "Where Have All the Flowers Gone?" and "500 Miles". Others
beat us to it.
Sorry for rambling here. I guess you could consider it part of my
introduction to you other Bloodliners. This began as an inspiration from
reading some of the "Out of the Closet" posts. I thought I might gain some
freedom by sharing something I haven't thought of for quite some time. I
remembered fantasizing for years about forming a Folk Group of Ricky
Nelson, John Stewart and me. I thought that would be really cool. My
friends used to laugh, but I was serious about that dream. I held it inside
as a positive possibility. Then Rick died in his plane crash, and so did my
dream. I've since lived my music fantasy vicariously through John's music.
Thanks John. You probably don't really know how many people you've served
by holding steady with your dream and integrity.
Terry Tillman
76132.64@compuserve.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: Mark Austin <tae69@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: "At It Again"
Bill Rayner wrote:
>
> Sounds like Andy M. Stewart and Manus Lunny's 2nd CD "At It Again" on
> Green Linnet, #1107. Released in 1990. Worth buying - not JS, but
> worth a listen.
I once visited my local library and they had an album
listed by J Stewart that I had never heard of, can't remember the
title. Anyway I ordered it, and it duly arrived - by soul artist
Jermaine Stewart!
Mark
There's only one J Stewart....
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: Jess Codd <jess@tipplibs.iol.ie>
Subject: Mike Armstrong; Nanci Griffith
Mike;
Saw your post on Bloodlines; am brand new myself to this list and haven't
even introduced myself as yet as I am waiting to get a feel for the list
first - shortly though!
With regard to your Nanci Griffith post; she's is huge over here in Ireland
and has been since the early 80's; indeed she has a great fondness for the
country and spends quite a bit of time here. I would recommend, without a
qualm, her album "Other Voices, Other Rooms" not as an indication of her
ability as a songwriter as it's an album of covers but as an interpreter of
others - it really shows what a fine singer she is, and includes such gems
as her covers of the late, great Townes Van Zandt's "Tecumseh Valley" [also
covered, to fine effect, by Steve Earle on his super "Train a Comin'"], Bob
Dylan's "Boots of Spanish Leather" and John Prine's "Speed at the Sound of
Loneliness". Some of the album was even recorded in Windmill Lane here.
Jess
Mr. Jess Codd,
Assistant Librarian, Tipperary Libraries
Castle Avenue, Thurles, Co. Tipperary, Ireland
jess@tipplibs.iol.ie; +353 (0) 504 21555; Fax +353 (0) 504 23442
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: "Nicholas E. D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Last Hurrah
Yes, that was the part of the song I was wondering about.
thank you.
At 07:10 AM 6/23/97 -0700, you wrote:
>To me, the song "Last Hurrah" is the potential end of John's musical run at
>recording. At the time of that album, he didn't know if he was going to
>make another one. "clear the tracks, this songs been taken" "loyal friends
>& front row dancers" "Saddest words I've ever spoken, were the words that
>might have been"......
>Merle
>At 07:06 PM 6/20/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>I've always been intrigued by the son "The Last Hurrah". I've had a lot
>>of Ideas abotu what it was about, and I was wondering if anyone else
>>would volunteer their interpretations?
>>
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: wingless-angel@juno.com (Robert J McConnell)
Subject: Re: Last Hurrah
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 "Ronald A. Fleshman"<insman@citynet.net> writes:
>FWIW. I always thought the song was about the Kennedy's -- especially
>Bobby and Martin Luther King. John travelled with Bobby on that "last
>hurrah." The lyrics just fit.
>
>Ron
I was listening to this the other day and have to agree with you.
What really brings the point out to me are the ltrics. "The saddest words
I've ever spoken, were the words that might have been." I see that as
John saynig "We'll never know what this country would have been like with
Bobby and Martin and whenever I try to say how it would be, the words
never come." They are however, expressed very well in "I Remember
America"
Wingelss Angel Still Survivving(Robert)
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: DMotley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rick Nelson
I sent two messages yesterday (6-23-97), one about Ricky Nelson, and one
about Roswell. Neither of them have posted as of today (6-24-97). Where
are they? What is going on here?
Anyway, the jist of my message was that I too think Ricky Nelson was cool.
Me and my wife and kids got to see him just a few months before he crashed.
BTW, his plane went down due to a mal-functioning heater on board, not
because someone was freebasing. (According to an FAA report).
The other message was concerning John playing at Roswell for the 50'th
anniversary of "The Roswell Incident". Is it true?
Hope this message doesn't get lost like the other two.
Keep it flyin' ,
Mott
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: MARGIE104@aol.com
Subject: Re: favorites
Hey you guys...don't forget Jimmy Buffet and Bob Marley!!!!
Just my two cents worth!
Margie.....who hasn't had two seconds of free time in the last month! (New
job...lots of travel!)
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: MARGIE104@aol.com
Subject: Re: In Defense Of Neil Young
Mott,
I adore Neil Young also........"somewhere on a desert highway, she rides a
Harley Davidson, her long BROWN hair flying in the wind.."
(I know it's supposed to be blond hair, but, I have brown hair flying in the
wind!)
Margie
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: HABIB15217@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tish Hinojosa [0% Stewart]
Tish Hinojosa is the the correct spelling. I had the pleasure of meeting her
a couple of times when I lived down in Texas...She has an incredible voice. I
recently picked up her Destiny's Gate which was recorded on Warner Brothers
and it has some "Pretty up and Walking Good " stuff on it. She does have a
Web Page...You should be able to tap into it through a search engine.
Phil
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: MARGIE104@aol.com
Subject: Re: Closet Music
You guys just don't stop! So I won't either, Does anyone know this
one.....
somehting like.....
Oh where, oh where can my baby be?
The Lord took her away from me.
She's gone to heaven and I got to be good,
So I can see my baby when I leave this world.
I cried every time I heard it as a kid, goosebumps and all!!!
Who sang it and when?
Thanks........Margie
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: MARGIE104@aol.com
Subject: Re: these two (or three...) things
Steve Martin........King Tut.......need I say more?
Margie out
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: these two (or three...) things
Yeah, I miss comedy records, everyone sitting around listening to them at
parties. I guess video killed the comedy record business.
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: "L. Kent Martin" <martink@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Closet Music
>You guys just don't stop! So I won't either, Does anyone know this
>one.....
>somehting like.....
>
> Oh where, oh where can my baby be?
> The Lord took her away from me.
> She's gone to heaven and I got to be good,
> So I can see my baby when I leave this world.
>
>
>I cried every time I heard it as a kid, goosebumps and all!!!
>Who sang it and when?
Oh my, oh my, but I have such a trivial mind:
"Last Date"
by Billy .... umm ... ahhhh .... argghhh ... oh, NUTS! Well, there's the title,
at least.
Missouri Bird,
Kent
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: "D&L Ruiz/Peeveyroo" <donfish@sttl.uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Tish Hinojosa [0% Stewart]
> Someone recommended a couple of Tish Hinojosa ( is that the correct
spelling?) albums recently and I've lost the message.
> Can anyone oblige?
> TIA, Ian
>
Hard to go wrong with Tish, although sometimes the production pours a
little too much syrup over the crystal voice. My favorites are ``Culture
Swing'' and ``Homeland.'' -- Don
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: "D&L Ruiz/Peeveyroo" <donfish@sttl.uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Closet Music
>
> Oh my, oh my, but I have such a trivial mind:
> "Last Date"
> by Billy .... umm ... ahhhh .... argghhh ... oh, NUTS! Well, there's the
title,
> at least.
> Missouri Bird,
> Kent
Actually I think it was called ``Last Kiss.'' I don't remember who sang it.
And for that matter, I also don't remember exactly how his baby got to
heaven. Though a windshield, I think. -- Don
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: Nancy Talbott <cockatoo@bslnet.com>
Subject: Re: A Special Reason to Rise. . .
GOOD GRIEF!!! I was GONE all weekend, just got back tonight, and
I'm...well.....
Cockatoo <----------------- THUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm SPEECHLESS!!!!
Earle, I'm sooo sorry she has to go thru this!!! I do hope and pray she's
doing well!!!!
Rick, I just got home about an hour ago, and I'm beat....you can call me at
work tomorrow, (520) 778-2969 or I'll call you...dunno what your hours
are, tho...I'll be there from 10-5
Take care...and I WILL be in Williams, on Friday....I bought 2 tickets and
don't have a date <pout> Either of you know any cute single guys that
love Stewart? LOL
Talk to ya soon
Nancy
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997
From: "Mike Armstrong" <MikeArm@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: Closet Music
The Title Is : "Last Kiss" by J. Frank Wilson & The Cavaliers in 1964. It
was redone in 1974 by "Wednesday".
Last Date was done by Floyd Cramer in 1960 as well as by Lawrence Welk in
1960 also.
Mike
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997
From: ClackClack@aol.com
Subject: chat time already?
This is for the AOL Bloodliners.
Next Tuesday is the first Tuesday of the month again and so we should try for
a chat. I think this will be our last planned chat for the summer. The
begining of August has John at Dave at Big Top and then the beginning of Sept
will be the New Mexico gig. So we won't have a scheduled chat for a while,
although we should probably try to have another before October!
We had so much fun last January that I have asked Rosanne Cash to join us
again. She warned me, to use her words, that she may be "modemless" that
night and unable to make it, but she will drop in if she can. If she doesn't
make it we'll have her back later in the year.
So same bat-time, same bat-station: keyword chat, select list chat, then
private room, and type in the roomname: neonroad . 6:30 Pacific, 9:30
Eastern.
And finally the west coasters will have a chance to see John & Rose play
together in Santa Cruz. Can't wait.
Ron
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997
From: Nancy Talbott <cockatoo@bslnet.com>
Subject: Re: Michelle's house...
4 years ago, Money Magazine named PRESCOTT, Arizona the TOP place to
live....as in NUMERO UNO! :)))))))
Nancy
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997
From: ALLMuse <sprest02@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Closet Music
MARGIE104@aol.com wrote:
>
> You guys just don't stop! So I won't either, Does anyone know this
> one.....
> somehting like.....
>
> Oh where, oh where can my baby be?
> The Lord took her away from me.
> She's gone to heaven and I got to be good,
> So I can see my baby when I leave this world.
>
> I cried every time I heard it as a kid, goosebumps and all!!!
> Who sang it and when?
>
> Thanks........Margie
The song was The Last Kiss...by J FRank Wilson and the Cavaliers, redone
in 1973 by a group called Wednesday. I like it too!
Steve
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997
From: Steve <Loboaw@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: In Defense Of Neil Young
MARGIE104@aol.com wrote:
>
> Mott,
>
> I adore Neil Young also........"somewhere on a desert highway, she rides a
> Harley Davidson, her long BROWN hair flying in the wind.."
>
> (I know it's supposed to be blond hair, but, I have brown hair flying in the
> wind!)
>
> Margie
Hell, if I'd known he sang something about a Harley I would have never
criticized him in the first place...<g>
Take care,
Lobo (AW)
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997
From: Steve <Loboaw@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Closet Music
Mike Armstrong wrote:
>
> The Title Is : "Last Kiss" by J. Frank Wilson & The Cavaliers in 1964. It
> was redone in 1974 by "Wednesday".
>
> Last Date was done by Floyd Cramer in 1960 as well as by Lawrence Welk in
> 1960 also.
>
> Mike
>
Mike-
I'm sorry, but you know too much...we have sent people for you...do not
resist...it is for your own good. <g>
Take care,
Lobo (AW)
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997
From: PFARNAM@aol.com
Subject: Re: Last Hurrah
Some of my thoughts on "The Last Hurrah". While I've heard many times that
the song refers to John's uncertainty about his recording career past the
album (Fire In The Wind), for me it has always meant the devastation to our
society by the deaths of Martin Luther King (Memphis) and Bob Kennedy (L.A.).
I have always believed that with Bob Kennedy's death, we, as a society, lost
our last best hope to come together as a working multi-curtural society,
where we recognized that we are really all part of the same thing. I believe
that if (or when) this country collapses, history will look back and identify
Robert Kennedy's death as the cracking point.
I would not be the least bit surprised to hear from AB that not only are
both of these viewpoints encorporated in "the Last Hurrah", but that there
are even more ideas embedded in the song.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997
From: Steve <Loboaw@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Last Hurrah
PFARNAM@aol.com wrote:
>
> Some of my thoughts on "The Last Hurrah".
> I have always believed that with Bob Kennedy's death, we, as a society, lost
> our last best hope to come together as a working multi-curtural society,
> where we recognized that we are really all part of the same thing. I believe
> that if (or when) this country collapses, history will look back and identify
> Robert Kennedy's death as the cracking point.
You might be right. There are times when I think that the deliberate
"Balkanization" of American society by power-grabbing fools has gone so
far as to cause irrepairable damage, that we have finally been reduced
to "we-they" tribal thinking, and the social contract binding us one to
the other has been destroyed.
On the other hand...
As the man said, "Can you hear me, Ohio? You are the country..."
As much as I pinned hope on Bobby, this country is not just a place. It
is an _idea_, and ideas are always bigger than one man. I mean no
disrespect to RFK when I say this; certainly the Idea was impeded with
his death. But the Idea is still alive. They can beat it up, try to
suppress it, and, in the long run, all they do is demonstrate its
viability. We are so very close to the trees; the growth of the forest
is hard to judge, but, maybe, with all the pendulum swings, we as a
people are finding our way.
I am reminded of a story, a true one. One of the first labor organizers
was a veteran of the War of 1812 and had crouched behind a cotton bale
facing the British line at New Orleans. Andrew Jackson was his
commander, a man of the West, and he thought the world of Andy By God
Jackson. But when he and the other workers went out on strike his much
revered leader, now President Jackson, sent in troops to break the
strike, He was crushed - what had happened to his leader? How would they
ever make it without a leader like he had thought Jackson was?
And then he remembered they hadn't broken the British at New Orleans
because of their leaders; they had won because of their courage and
determination, because of their choosing to stand and fight. And while
it would be great to have someone stand as a leader for what was right,
in the American experience it was up to individuals to make their own
decisions, to take their own stands. He finally decided that maybe
having to do that, having the right to do it, was better than pinning
hopes on the arrival of some rescuing leader, even Andy By God Jackson.
It's harder, that way of the old veteran and labor organizer, but maybe
his idea about it all really being up to us is right. To put it another
way, the Idea RFK stood for, imho, is alive and it is up to us to decide
what will become of it.
I just wish he were still here to help in the fight.
Take care,
Lobo (AW)
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