Bloodlines Mailing List archives June 16-19, 1997
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bloodlines-digest Thursday, June 19 1997 Volume 01 : Number 020
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 1
From: "Mike Armstrong" <MikeArm@netcom.ca>
Subject: Re: Rough Sketches Akin To John Steinbeck
Mott,
That would be Henry Fonda ...... picky, picky picky!
Mike
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> From: DMotley@aol.com
> Yes, Robert , I do see a touch of Guthrie in Rough Sketches. I also find
> this particular work to be reminescent of John Steinbeck in its tone and
> message. When I hear John sing that line about "The Oatman Road to the
> Golden Gate, eucaliptus trees to the Golden State....." I can almost
> picture Tom Joad (Jimmy Stewart) and his family driving down that dusty road
> to the Colorado River crossing. (Scene from The Grapes Of Wrath). I would
> characterize John Stewart as "the modern day John Steinbeck of song."
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: "R.Geddes" <geddes@mcb.net>
Subject: Re: Rough Sketches Akin To John Steinbeck
My wife and I always reckoned "Bolinas" was "Cannery Row" by Steinbeck.
Rod.
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R.Geddes
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rough Sketches Akin To W. Guthrie
>Hey Liners,
>
> Well I FINALLY got a copy of "Rough Sketches" the other day and
>have been playing that a lot. At first I didn't know if I really liked
>it. It was different from most of John's stuff, in my opinion.
I find it hard to comprehend how you could classify "most of John's stuff"
His style changes often with each album. :-)
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Johnstown Mud
>Chris & Liza Hunt
>Boys hell they were men when they stood knee deep in the Johnstown mud...
BTW My Mom is from Johnstown, she still lives and works there. If you ever go
you should take the time to visit the flood museum (downtown) and the flood
memorial (out at the remains of the dam, the latter is much more dramatic).
It really is a fascinating story.
NED
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rough Sketches Akin To W. Guthrie
>
>Robert, I think you nailed it and I'm going to pop RS in the CD player
>right now and listen to it again!
>
>Mike
>
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That's what I meant about some music being more challenging to listen to
than other music. Sometimes you have to listen to it a few times and think
about it before the light bulb pops on.
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Muscrat Love
Huh, right you are, I looked up America's Discography, and the song is on their
greatest hits album. It says:
Muscrat Love (Ramsey)
>Wrong. The song was written and recorded by one Willis Allen Ramsay on a self
>titled album on Leon Russell's Shelter label in the early seventies. A fine
>singer-songwriter he was too. Whatever happened to him?
>Cordially Yours
>
>Vitrarius
>
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Dr. Demento
In Junior High I used to listen to Dr. Demento every week on now defunct
WCUE in Akron, OH. I had a whole K-Mart tape collection of his songs. I
have no Idea what happened to them. My favorite was called "My Name is
Larry" by I think Larry Fisher. My friend Paul even had the album.
NED.
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: wingless-angel@juno.com (Robert J McConnell)
Subject: Re: Rough Sketches Akin To W. Guthrie
I agree that John's style changes from album to album. I think
what I was trying to convey was that R.S. was something very new to me.
Very moody. Very soul searching. Now all of John's albums have eliments
of that intertwind in them but for me, this album is a large expression
of a man's search for his identity through travel. Something that Woody
Guthrie knew all about.
Wingless Angel
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: wingless-angel@juno.com (Robert J McConnell)
Subject: Re: Rough Sketches Akin To John Steinbeck
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 DMotley@aol.com writes:
>Yes, Robert , I do see a touch of Guthrie in Rough Sketches. I also
>find this particular work to be reminescent of John Steinbeck in its tone
>and message. When I hear John sing that line about "The Oatman Road to
>the Golden Gate, eucaliptus trees to the Golden State....." I can almost
>picture Tom Joad (Jimmy Stewart) and his family driving down that
>dusty road to the Colorado River crossing. (Scene from The Grapes Of Wrath). I
>would characterize John Stewart as "the modern day John Steinbeck of song."
> What do you think?
> Keep it flyin' ,
> Mott
>
I think your right. It's been years since I read any
Steinbeck but from what I remember of it I feel John does capture
that in this album as well as the following.
Willard
Calif. Bloodlines
Lonesome Picker
Sunstorm
What do other people think? What does Angelbravo think?
Wingless Angel
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: Lee Bittner <cambria@TELIS.ORG>
Subject: Willis Alan Ramsey
Willis must feel about "Muscrat Love" the same way Ravel did of
"Bolero." Such simplistic legacies. The last I heard, he was living in
London (late '80s).
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: Bill Rayner <doghelp@primenet.com>
Subject: Mac Brasel's Farm - Roswell 97
Towards the end of John's set at Anderson's in Scottsdale last Sunday,
he commented about the upcoming 50th Anniversary of the Roswell, NM UFO
encounter - there's a festival honoring the event and John said he'll be
playing. I think he was serious, he was on a roll... The current issue
of Time magazine's cover story is dedicated to this event, no mention of
JS though.
Just for the heck of it, I did a search on Roswell UFO Encounter 97 and
came up with MANY sites, found one that is pretty interesting. It has
reproductions of the newspaper accounts of what supposedly happened
which show how much the information changed from day 1 to day 2 and to
the present day. Very similar to the content of "Mac Brasel's Farm" on
Rough Sketches.
Sounds like you nailed it, John. Big Brother is watching and has been
for some time.
It's as clear as a rose on a tattooed arm
What they found on Mac Brasel's farm
If you had seen in the Roswell barn
You must believe in Mac Brasel's farm
Mac Brasel's farm
I knew I should have bought one of those cool shirts at the concert...
Here's the URL:
http://www.sierra-vista.com/roswell/
What happened in July 1947?
About July 4, 1947, a UFO reportedly crashed near Roswell, a farming and
ranching community in southeastern New Mexico. According to some reports,
the bodies of four aliens were found near the ship. In other reports, one
or more of the aliens survived for a period of time.
Mac Brazel reported finding portions of a crashed UFO on his ranch. The
sheriff of Chaves County passed this information along to officials at
Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF) and an investigation was begun by Maj.
Jesse Marcel, an intelligence officer.
A press release was issued by RAAF about the flying saucer on July 8,
1947. The following day, the official story was changed by Army Air Force
officials. (Both stories were reported in front page articles in the
Roswell Daily Record.)
This Roswell Daily Record web site lets you explore the various reports
on what has been termed the "Roswell Incident," a subject that has
generated many news reports, books and motion pictures.
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
Subject: Re: Akron, OH Set List?
>I'd still like to know if anyone on this list was able to attend the
>May 31 show at the Cuyahoga National Recreation area. I know I posted
>this a week or so ago, but it might have been stampeded by that
>'Music Exchange' thread. We had some car trouble due to the rain and only
>made it half way back from Columbus.
Ned-
The coordintor of the show, Pete Crossland phoned me tonight (not an easy
task to track me down these days) to chat about how it all went. He had
only positive things to say. He's planning to write a little blurb about
how y'all can go about doing this yerselves. Look for it in the next couple
of weeks.
I understand that there were 290 people for the Saturday night concert and
they had to turn away about 10 cars for lack of parking space! PS I would
like to hear some reviews too.
Michelle Stevens,
Your friendly webmistress and Bloodlines mailing list manager
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
http://www.concentric.net/~ddunet/ (John Stewart Web Site)
bloodlines@world.std.com (John Stewart Internet Mailing List)
mstevens@world.std.com or ddunet@concentric.net
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"An angel on the road shoulder knows the way home"
- --JS
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From: earlkctsr489@webtv.net (Earl Knoob)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997
Subject: JS in Chama...change of format!
Just a quick note to let those of you who don't already know that
Sunday's workshop has been changed from a song writer's workshop tto a
retrospective look at John Stewart's career. For those of us non
musicians, I think this will provide a more entertaining and unique
experience.
Thanks,
Carmen K.
(Earl's wife)
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: Nancy Talbott <cockatoo@bslnet.com>
Subject: Re: Mac Brasel's Farm - Roswell 97
Uh...Bill??? Were you intentionally incognito? How come you didn't find
Rick and myself and introduce yourself???????????????/
Nancy
At 01:16 PM 6/18/97 -0700, Bill Rayner wrote:
>Towards the end of John's set at Anderson's in Scottsdale last Sunday,
>he commented about the upcoming 50th Anniversary of the Roswell, NM UFO
>encounter - there's a festival honoring the event and John said he'll be
>playing. I think he was serious, he was on a roll... The current issue
>of Time magazine's cover story is dedicated to this event, no mention of
>JS though.
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Worst Ever
>
> Well, look, if the fans of Garrison Keeler are in agreement with me,
>then I'd like to rethink my position...<g>
>-Lobo (AW)
>
The people voting on the worst songs were the people who read this guy's column.
He says he still gets letters 5 years later on the subject. Garrison's fans
were generally unenthusiastic about most of the nominations
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Fathers and Neil
>Hi Cathrine,
>Yes, "Leader of the Band" is an excellent tune...if you like Dan Fogelberg,
>try his masterpiece "Captured Angel".....what a terrific album....and yes,
>Neil Young is a tremendous singer/songwriter....""Fron Hank to Hendrix"
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Hey, is that Hank Snow or Hank Williams? Hank Snow was one of a kind,
My dad used to play his records all the time. (My Dad is a RR engineer -
retires in 6 months)
NED.
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: John Stewart Akin To John Steinbeck
>I would
>characterize John Stewart as "the modern day John Steinbeck of song."
>What do you think?
> Keep it flyin' ,
> Mott
I like "The Godfather of Modern Folk Singer-Song Writers" better ;-)
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997
From: Nancy Talbott <cockatoo@bslnet.com>
Subject: Re: worst songs
6/16/97, Merle Stringfield wrote:
>Hi Marty,
>You reminded me of something I hadn't thought of in years....it's 1979,
>3am, Interstate 5, south out of Los Angeles, 17 cups of coffee, radio
>blasting.... the DJ says, "The number one song of the year, 10 years ago
>today"
>The coffee kicks in...'Stairway to heaven'(no, it wasn't a single); 'Suite
>Judy Blue eyes' (Well, maybe); 'Let it be' (they sure played IT enough)
>'July you're a woman' (wouldn't THAT be great!)......song begins....it was
>none of the above...it was "Sugar,Sugar" by the Archies. I almost drove off
>the freeway!!!
>Thanks,
>Merle
Since I'm a little younger than most of you, I have a confession to make
<hanging head> I was 14 years old in 1969, and I was a "bubble
gummer"...."Sugar Sugar" was one of my FAVORITE songs!!! <gasp!>
Gimme SOME credit...at least my taste in music has VASTLY improved! <BG>
Nanc
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997
From: Katharine Brooks <brookska@dickinson.edu>
Subject: more names...
I just thought of one of my favorites and I don't think he's been
mentioned: Harry Nilsson. Any other Nilsson fans out there? Another
tragic end to a talented person.
Also... for traditional folk sound, it's hard to beat Bill Staines
and a group called "Schooner Fare".
By the way, I have lots of old music book collections by artists like Phil
Ochs, Gordon Lightfoot, Peter Paul & Mary, Ian & Sylvia, etc. Let me know
if you're looking for the guitar chords to a particular song. I might have
it.
Kate
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997
From: Merle Stringfield <t_mstrin@qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: more names...
Hi Kate,
A fantastic album by Nilsson was "The Point"....It was also a animated TV
special. My sister loved that album so much, that she toyed with the idea
of naming her first born Oblio. "But as he so quickly pointed out, a point
in every direction is the same as no point at all"
Merle
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997
From: wingless-angel@juno.com (Robert J McConnell)
Subject: Bolinas was Cannery Row
>My wife and I always reckoned "Bolinas" was "Cannery Row" by
>Steinbeck.
>Rod.
>--
>R.Geddes
>
Hey Wingless Angel here. Nop Bolinas IS bolinas. I was raised for
a time in that part of the world and everythig that John writes about
concerning this town is true. I have to laugh and cry when I listen to
this song because not only is it a true vision of the town, it is also
the first place I was abused. Sorry to end on a downer guys.
Robert
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 97
From: "Luke N. Havumaki" <lnhfbo@polaristel.net>
Subject: Re: more names...
Harry Nillson's All Time Greatest Hits is a classic.
Tunes like I Guess The Lord Must Be In New York City
Me and My Arrow (there's a cool video of this narrated by Ringo Starr
dealing with conformity)
One
Good Old Desk
Thanks for reminding me.
I also must confess to enjoying Sugar, Sugar. There are many songs that
are probably listened to with extreme guilty pleasures that are simply
"ear candy" nice little dittys that trigger fond memories.
My closet listening groups include ABBA, Gary Lewis and the Playboys, and
most of the pop British Invasion.
Just finished listening to Secret Tapes I & II. Once in a while it is
hard to remember to play cassettes.
Luke
There is a train and it runs by my room
And the train is called reality and it's coming way too soon.-John Stewart
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997
From: drwatsup@juno.com
Subject: Re: JS fan music profile ver. 3.0
Those of you interested in these (and other similar) folk artists should
consider joining the World Folk Music Association. Many have appeared at
previous festivals and showcases put on by WFMA in the Washington -
Baltimore area. Newsletters keep members up to date on touring schedules,
album releases, etc. Write for info to WFMA P.O. Box 40553 Washington DC
20016
Steve Rosenberg
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Mailing LPs
Has anyone had any luck mailing LP records lately? About a year ago a friend of
mine ordered one in the mail and it was slightly warped. It is entirely possible
that the record was warped before it was mailed.
The post office doesn't even have stamps for mailing records anymore. Just
thought I'd ask for some advice because I'm mailing one out this week. I can
still get the LP mailers ('boxes'), they are a little over a $1.
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997
From: Eddie Armstrong <Eddie@eddiea.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Hello Again!
here we go again - more mail coming to me :-)
>I was an original BLOODLINES member but had to leave because of the message
>count. Now that there's a digest I'm back and couldn't be happier!
- --
Eddie Armstrong
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 97
From: "Luke N. Havumaki" <lnhfbo@polaristel.net>
Subject: Re: more names...
Harry Nillson's All Time Greatest Hits is a classic.
Tunes like I Guess The Lord Must Be In New York City
Me and My Arrow (there's a cool video of this narrated by Ringo Starr
dealing with conformity)
One
Good Old Desk
Thanks for reminding me.
I also must confess to enjoying Sugar, Sugar. There are many songs that
are probably listened to with extreme guilty pleasures that are simply
"ear candy" nice little dittys that trigger fond memories.
My closet listening groups include ABBA, Gary Lewis and the Playboys, and
most of the pop British Invasion.
Just finished listening to Secret Tapes I & II. Once in a while it is
hard to remember to play cassettes.
Luke
There is a train and it runs by my room
And the train is called reality and it's coming way too soon.-John Stewart
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Change of Pace
Unfortunately, the first step is having a cool station to request it on.
Don't sell college radio short. Steer clear of any station that has
a 'Zaney' morning crew who gives away a lot of money! (If they've got
to pay you to listen, there must be something wrong! ;-)
NED
>Liza & Mark,
>
>Bless you for playing John on your station. Do you have any advice for us
>on the best way to request a station to play John's, or anybody elses, songs
>on the radio? Are there any do's or don'ts? Who is the best person to
>contact at the station? Please tell us, we want to be taken seriously!
>
> Keep it flyin' , Mott
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