Bloodlines Mailing List archives June 13-15, 1997
from the John Stewart email list
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bloodlines-digest Sunday, June 15 1997 Volume 01 : Number 016
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: Merle Stringfield <t_mstrin@qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: Dave Mason
Hi Mike,
Yes indeed!!! It is available on Compact Disc. Sorry, don't have a catalog
number, but should be obtainable at any CD outlest...might have to special
order it though. Good luck!!! Never thought about Stills and Mason
sounding the same....maybe "4 & 20" These days, though, Stills sounds more
like Tom Waits.
Merle
>>
>>Yes...he is terrific!! The album "Alone Together" is one of the best albums
>>ever!!!! "Shouldn't have took more than you gave/or we wouldn't be in this
>>mess today"
>>
>
>This is off-list to avoid clogging up bloodlines with TOO much non-Stewart
>stuff, but...do you happen to know if 'Alone Together' has ever been
>released on CD?
>
>I have an ageing vinyl copy and would dearly love to upgrade, and I've never
>seen a CD version of it over on this side of the pond.
>
>BTW, is it just me, or do you think Dave Mason sounded remarkably similar to
>Stephen Stills at times?
>
>Mike
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: Nancy Talbott <cockatoo@bslnet.com>
Subject: Re: Memory Jump Start
MEEEEE too!! Still have one of his albumns on vinyl !!!!
Nanc
>Cath wrote:
>"we just disagree."
>
>That reminds me. Did anyone ever like Dave Mason? I did.
>
>Michelle Stevens,
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: "Nicholas E. D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Route 66
Being kind of new around here, I missed the scoop on the route 66 trip last
year. I was wondering if anyone had any good stories. How many showed up?
NED.
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: wingless-angel@juno.com (Robert J McConnell)
Subject: Change of Pace
Well I see this list thing has gotten WAY OUT OF HAND so I'm gonna
attempt to throw something else into the works. Does anyone know if their
local radio stations play John's stuff? I live in the San Francisco area
and I know of only one that play trio stuff. KABL plays "Where have all
the flowers gone" a lot but nothing more from the Stewart years. I plan
to contact them soon and suggest more interesting titles. Let us know
what plays in your states.
Dear Merle,
Hey thanks for the offer of "Fire". Have it covered thanks.
Wingless Angel Still Survivng(Robert)
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: "Nicholas E. D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Mutual Friends
>Dear Angel Bravo,
>First off if Robert of My Personal Journey is still in need of LP 'Fire in
>the Wind', I would be more than glad to send one to him free of charge as I
>have multiples. Some one provide me with an address, and it is out of here.
>Upon completion of this dispatch am sending off yet another plea to
>Polygram for CD release of FIRE IN THE WIND.(for the benefit of all others
>who may write as well: POLYGRAM RECORDS INC, Worldwide Plaza, 825 8th Ave,
>New York, NY 10019, (212) 333-8000)...
- ----------------------------------------
Thanks for the address. Pleased to meet another 'Fire' fan. That was my
first John Stewart Album. All of John's RSO recordings (at least the LPs
which are all I have) are of very high quality. The engineering/mixing
is also impeccable for that period in time (IMO).
NED.
P.S. Polygram's WWW address is: http://www.polygram.com/polygram/PolyGram.html
I couldn't find an e-mail address on their site anywhere. Maybe I'm a little
slow today, maybe someone else will have better luck.
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: "George Brother" <gbrother@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Mutual Friends
http://www.polygram.com/polygram/email.html
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "Bob Elliot" <slowcoach@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: Omaha Rainbow Issue 17
Hi
Omaha Rainbow Issue 17 is now online.
Regards
Bob Elliot
==
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk./~slowcoach/basement/bobs.html
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: ClackClack@aol.com
Subject: Kate Wolf Music Fest
Hello all-
One of the greatest folksingers of all time was Kate Wolf, who passed away 10
years ago. She left a treasure of recordings and songs and should be on
everyone's favorite artists list.
There's a Kate Wolf folk festival in Sebastopol (Calif) this weekend. It is a
2 day all day affair. I'll be there on Saturday only with the family. Eric
Bogle ("The Band Played Waltzing Matilda") will be there from Australia as
well as Utah Phillips and Dar WiIliams ("When I Was a Boy" "As Cool As I Am")
and Greg Brown. Is anyone else going? Drop me a line privately if you are
and maybe we could say hey.
Ron
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: I found Willard! =)
Hey, I finally found a clean copy of "Willard" today. Know what else I
found? A poster inside the album, I had no idea there was supposed to be
a poster in there.
Found it at: Used Kid's Records, 1992 N. High in Columbus, OH, in "the Annex".
Their folk collection is unusually thick this month.
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: Patricia Russell <pruss@hollinet.com>
Subject: Re: Change of Pace
Robert J McConnell wrote:
> Does anyone know if their
> local radio stations play John's stuff? I live in the San Francisco area
> and I know of only one that play trio stuff. KABL plays "Where have all
> the flowers gone" a lot but nothing more from the Stewart years.
Try KPIG out of Watsonville. 107.5 FM. Have heard JS played in the
past. They play a lot of the people on the list.
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: KKirby@OCI.net (KKirby@OCI.net)
Subject: Update
I don't post very often due to time constraints, but I try to read as many
posts as I can. I think this list is great.
If you've been on the list a few months, you might remember that I'm the one
who made the faux pas substituting "Ruby" for "July" in talking about John's
song. Also, my husband really appreciated all of you who responded regarding
the origins of "Cody." I gave my husband the book The Red Pony for his
birthday, and when he finished the it, he said he now understood better the
emotions underlying "Cody." But, Cody is still one of those songs, like John
does, that is eerily real. Ya know what I mean?
Well, tonight we were listening (again) to the Phoenix Concert. Well, this
is an amazingly good recording of a live concert. John was in top form, and
his renditions of his songs are some of the best recorded, in our opinion.
John is, I believe, the most soulful folk singer ever, and the Phoneix
concert is testement to this.
And so, we decided to give the Phoenix Concert CD to one of our best friends
who is having a birthday in September. This friend is actually the one who
introduced John to my husband back in the 60's, but he hasn't kept up with
John, although he still listens to California Bloodlines and has seen him in
concert more times than we have. So, we thought he might appreciate this CD.
However, when we go to our local music store to order John Stewart CDs, they
treat us like we're from Pluto. I don't remember who, but someone on the
list can get John Stewart CDs. I want to order this, so please tell me whom
to contact.
And then, for those who are parents . . . my daughter (just turned 11 years)
is very musical -- she sings and plays the piano, but her instrument of
choice for the past few years is the clarinet. She is in the school
orchestra, plays by ear, and loves all classical music. But recently she's
been enthralled by The Spice Girls and now the Hansons. I think their music
is OK, even pretty good sometimes, but nothing to get excited about. I can't
believe my daughter can like this music. Is this a passing phase or what?
Should I tolerate this or try to convince her of her better instincts?
Karen
kkirby@oci.net
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "R.Geddes" <geddes@mcb.net>
Subject: Willard
A poster in Willard, of what, who??
I have been trying for years to get a Gate - fold copy of Willard &
Cannons and a copy of Punch the Big Guy with the picture sleeve, anybody
know where I can get them??
Rod.
- --
R.Geddes
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997
From: jalderson@journals.uchicago.edu
Subject: rave faves
Hey, did someone mention David Wakeling? All I have is English Beat albums, nothing
since , but how I could have forgotten to mention him is a mystery. Those guys were
crucial in my appreciation of music.
"she said to leave 'til the end of the party
but do it now you know there's never a next time..."
- --Jane
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: ALLMuse <sprest02@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Willard
Rod -
I don't believe that Willard was released as a gatefold. I have an
original pressing which has a regular sleeve with the poster insert.
Cannons in the Rain did come as a gatefold...Ive got one but I can't
part with it as its the only copy I have.
Steve
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: ALLMuse <sprest02@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Mitchell Trio
Hi Friends
Still hoping to find someone who taped the Chad Mitchell Trio reunion
concert on PBS bout 9 years ago...the one that the Folk Era cd's are
taken from. I never got to see it as our PBS affiliate didnt pick up the
show, and I would love to see it.
Does anyone have a copy of this?
Ian, any chance of Folk Era releasing this since you've done the cd's?
Please help if you can.
Thanks
Steve
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: drwatsup@juno.com
Subject: Re: Worst Ever/Music Exchange etc
the tape is available in several mail order catalogs
Steve Rosenberg
>BTW...does anyone on this list have a copy of the video on the Chad
>Mitchell Trio reunion concert from PBS a few years back? My PBS
>affiliate never ran it...Ive never seen it...and I'm desperate to see
>what Ive been hearing on those two great cds Folk Era put out. PLEASE
>HELP ME someone...
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "R.Geddes" <geddes@mcb.net>
Subject: Re: Willard
>Rod -
>
>I don't believe that Willard was released as a gatefold. I have an
>original pressing which has a regular sleeve with the poster insert.
Ok, But what is on the poster please??
Rod.
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R.Geddes
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: ALLMuse <sprest02@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Willard
Rod -
Lyrics on one side...pictures from the recording sessions (several
photos) on the other
Steve
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Willard
The poster in 'Willard' is 11" x 22" and it is a BW montage of 9 pictures,
mostly of a young John Stewart and his band, and there are 2 pictures of John's
back and other members of the band. He is wearing a denim-like shirt and a
bandana around his neck. My girlfriend thinks that they are especially 'cute'
pictures and she likes his 'boyish smile',(women, who can figure them?! ;-).
My copy doesn't fold, I guess it isn't an original press like I thought. I do
have a folding copy of 'Cannons' There is a picture of John there in a hat with
his guitar and a sticky name tag with "Performer" stamped on it on his shirt
pocket. It is from the library of a radio station called WKYX, anybody know
where that is? there is a note on it that says:
"between country and folk, on the tube once" and next to "Armstrong" it says
'don't play this one'.
I also have Punch the Big Guy with the Picture Sleeve, John Signed it for me
in Kent, Ohio last year. I'll try to scan it in for you at work, or find
you another one.
Nick.
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "R.Geddes" <geddes@mcb.net>
Subject: Re: Willard
Thanks Nick..Now I really do have to search..that was not released over
here!!
Rod.
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: RGodwin495@aol.com
Subject: Re: Return to Arizona...Update
<< Are you SURE about those times?
also, Andersons has always been doors at 6, show at 7pm...,. >>
Monsoon's in Flagstaff was a classic...as close to a house concert as might
ever happen.
Rustic bar........front door always open... trains going by, whistles
always blowing....Route 66 just 40 feet away from center stage...and here's
John singing about the blue dream road. Report later today. Earl has
the set list.
Just want to be sure everyone going to Anderson's Fifth Estate in Scottsdale
on Sunday (*this* Sunday) has the correct times:
DOORS OPEN AT 7:00 PM SHOW STARTS AT 8:00 PM
Tickets via Dillards box office....or at the door...NO
reserved seating.
And in light of the great review John got in Thursday's Arizona Republic's
(morning statewide paper) "PopMusic Highlights" - he was the lead story,
complete with the headline "'70s Folk Hero Plays Scottsdale Club" - anyone
planning on going: either phone order your tickets or plan to be there as
early as you can. Tickets should still be available at the door.
See everyone Sunday...bringing the 'li'l angel' (daughter)!...Nancy, am
buying your tickets for you this morning....
.....Rick
p.s. have no idea how my earlier post about both venues got posted
again...sorry about using up the bandwidth...blame it on the list server!
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Rare KT & Folk records
Hello again,
For the second day in a row I have cme up with some astonishing finds. If
anyone is looking for rare folk LPs Let me know, because there is a bonanza in
Columbus, Ohio right now. Today I went to "Goldmine Records" and I found
a sealed copy of Homecoming, MINT copies of: Sunstorm, and The Phoenix
Concerts Live.
I also found a MINT original Decca copy of the KT first album. I already have
this one and I am willing to sell it if anyone is interested. I don't make a
profit, only the cost of the record, plus a box, plus postage, and I'll send
the receipts.
I also found 3 MINT Phil Ochs records --in one day--, (I'll tape them, but
I'm not ready to sell them yet, they are: Chords of Fame, Pleasures of the
Harbor,
and 'In Concert', I'm not sure how much of his stuff is out on CD yet). I
also found two mint Jimmie Spheris LPs and I have a copy of "Isle of View" that
I'm willing to part with.
There is a lot of Steeleye Span around right now, they must have come out on
CD recently. More KT, and a lot of others. Let me know if you can't find
something, and I'll make a list and try to get as much as I can reasonably
get to. One dealer just bought out 2 stores, one in upstate NY and one in NH
and
he's loaded with folk (Including Tom Rush).
I have a very clean copy of Willard (no poster) and an extra copy of
Wingless Angels too.
Nick D.
- --------------------------------------------------
When your wings no longer catch the wind,
your wheels are throwin' sparks from concrete on the rim,
and you've run so long and you've run so hard,
you're feelin' every stone beneath your feet,
as they repeat...
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: JS fan music profile ver. 3.0
Here's the update. About 5 or 6 changes. Van the man still leads, Nanci is
gaining ground.
John Stewart Fan -- Musical Profile (approximation)
- -----------------------------------------------------
David Ackles
Jackson Browne
Johnny Cash
Roseanne Cash
Elvis Costello
Leonard Cohen
Iris DeMent
Sandy Denny/Fairport
Nick Drake
Bob Dylan
Steve Earle
Robert Earle Keen
Joe Ely
Flying Burrito Brothers
John Gorka
Nanci Griffith
Arlo Guthrie
Judy Henske
John Hiatt
Richie Havens
Leo Kottke
Kris Kristofferson
Gordon Lightfoot
Lyle Lovett
Joni Mitchell
Van Morrison
Bill Morrisey
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
Rick Nelson
Willie Nelson
Mickey Newbury
Phil Ochs
Tom Paxton
Elvis Presley
John Prine
Loudon Wainwright
Tom Rush
Pete Seeger
Bruce Springsteen
Linda Thompson
Richard Thompson
Ian Tyson
Townes Van Zandt
Tom Waits
Jerry Jeff Walker
Jimmy Webb
Cheryl Wheeler
Kate Wolf
Jessie Colin Young
Neil Young
Warren Zevon
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "David L. Taylor" <davidltaylor5@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Father's Day
Happy Father's Day to all the Bloodliner dads. I hope you all have the
opportunity to spend some time with your children this weekend. Mine will
be here today for a bbq (guess who gets to do the honors?). If you don't
have kids, I hope you have the opportunity to tell your dad how important
he is to you.
David
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
Subject: Re: Update
>However, when we go to our local music store to order John Stewart CDs, they
>treat us like we're from Pluto. I don't remember who, but someone on the
>list can get John Stewart CDs. I want to order this, so please tell me whom
>to contact.
Go to:
http://www.concentric.net/~ddunet/available.html
This is a printable order form that you send along with your check to
Homecoming Records in LA. "Dave" Batti will promptly send you your order!
Michelle Stevens,
Your friendly webmistess and Bloodlines mailing list manager
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
http://www.concentric.net/~ddunet/ (John Stewart Web Site)
bloodlines@world.std.com (John Stewart Internet Mailing List)
mstevens@world.std.com or ddunet@concentric.net
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
"An angel on the road shoulder knows the way home"
- --JS
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rare KT & Folk records
At 01:34 PM 6/14/97, I wrote:
One dealer just bought out 2 stores, one in upstate NY and one in NH
>and
>he's loaded with folk (Including Tom Rush).
>
Hey, I have to correct an error. The dealer was on a TRIP to a show in NH and he
bought a store from someone in NY. Tomorrow he is buying another
store, I believe in PA.
:-)
NED.
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
Subject: Re: Father's Day
In a message dated 97-06-14 14:29:53 EDT, you write:
<< I hope you have the opportunity to tell your dad how important
he is to you. >>
Steve Goodman did a song about this........very good stuff.........still
standin' in the shadow......of my Old Man...........Blue
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: Danhodges@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mutual Friends
Hi Merle,
Thanks for keeping Al Cook "online" and in the JS fan loop. Al is also a
friend of mine and a more ardent or faithful JS fan could never be found.
I've tried to tell Al he needs to get into the 20th centry and get a
computer.
Via this note please pass on warm regards from Dan And Olivia to Al.
Dan and Olivia
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: DMotley@aol.com
Subject: Re: In Defense Of Neil Young
In defense of Neil Young I would just like to say that his songs have always
held a certain beauty, and meaning for me. His voice is unique, and
distinctive, as is John's and Stephen Stills' (he's # 2 on my list).
Perhaps that's why I'm attracted to these artists.
Neil's concern and respect for humanity has been demonstrated, not only
through his lyrics, but through his deeds as well.
I know there are others in our group, including, I think, John, who would
agree with me that Neil Young is one of the premier singer-songwriters of our
generation.
Keep it flyin' , Mott
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: DMotley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Austin City Limits
Dear Bloodliners,
I have, once agan, E-Mailed Austin City Limits to request them to schedule
JS for next season. They did'nt listen to our suggestions last season, so
now that we're 150 strong, let's really let them know that JS deserves a spot
in their lineup for next season! Once again, that E-Mail address is:
Laura_Bond@KLRU.pbs.org Please help out and E-Mail her a message
today. Thank's, I knew you would. Keep it Flyin' , Mott.
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Austin City Limits
How about one of those NPR shows?
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "L. Kent Martin" <martink@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Update
At 11:32 PM 6/13/97, you wrote:
>I don't post very often due to time constraints, but I try to read as many
>posts as I can. I think this list is great.
> I can't
>believe my daughter can like this music. Is this a passing phase or what?
>Should I tolerate this or try to convince her of her better instincts?
>
>Karen
>
Just a suggestion, Karen, for what it's worth, but let her find her own
taste in music, let her grow, experience different rhythms, tones, notes ...
and she'll be more grateful to you and (most importantly) enjoy music more
than if you force anything on her. Let her hear John whenever possible and
if you're lucky, she might take after you.
After all, just be thankful she enjoys any form of music.
Good luck.
Missouri Bird,
Kent
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: Update
I agree,
Musical taste is a learning process. As with any task the brain has to 'learn'
how to listen to music. It is a natural progression for people to journey
through simpler and diverse forms of music before they can appreciate more
complex music. =)
NED
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997
From: Martyn Emerson <martyn@nyx.nwnet.co.uk>
Subject: Music Exchange (was Father's Day)
Blue wrote (quoting David):
><< I hope you have the opportunity to tell your dad how important
> he is to you. >>
>
>Steve Goodman did a song about this........very good stuff.........still
>standin' in the shadow......of my Old Man...........Blue
Father's Day doesn't mean much to me: I've no offspring, and I can't tell
my dad anything any more. His body has yet to shuffle off this mortal
coil, but his mind departed it some years ago.
But perhaps if I second this recommendation, and mention the excellence of
many Steve Goodman songs, the man might make it onto Nick's "profile list"
ver. 4.0?
Glad someone offered a kind word for Ms. Nyro. A recent premature loss as
sad as that of Mr. Goodman.
I've noticed talk of a lyrics/pictures insert in Willard. I didn't get one
in my copy, but I guess I can go on living without it. But I was wondering
if there might have been anything similar in the very first issues of
Signals and Bloodlines. They seem singularly short on info.
Martyn
Manchester, UK
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "L. Kent Martin" <martink@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Austin City Limits
> Please help out and E-Mail her a message
>today. Thank's, I knew you would. Keep it Flyin' , Mott.
It be done.
Missouri Bird,
Kent
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "L. Kent Martin" <martink@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re:Worst Ever
At 04:57 PM 6/12/97, you wrote:
>> >"MacArthur Park" by Richard Harris
> >Lobo (AW)
>> >
>> NO WAY!! great memories of that one!!(can't go into details!!)
> No offense meant,
>Lobo, we just disagree. Cath
>
Yep, me too.
"My Boy" and the other Jimmy Webb albums Richard Harris sang still hold fond
memories for me, too. Richard Harris was SO self-indulgent but as an often
marvelous actor, I suppose that's part of his stock in trade.
Anyway, these LPs still reside in my "library" ... won't part with 'em, nope.
Missouri Bird,
Kent
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re:Worst Ever
I like Jimmy Webb, he could barely sing, but he sure could write!. I read a
list somewhere of different songs that Jimmy Webb had writtern that had become
popular and I simply couldn't believe how many songs I recognized.
Bad news though, I was listening to Garrison Keeler tonight, and he had a
guest who as a nespaper comunist or something, and this guy had asked his
readers to ring in with their 'worst songs', not unlike what was going on
here over the last few days, and his 'winner' was MacArthur Park. Perhaps
the excessive airplay was one reason that people tired of this song.
NED.
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997
From: alleycat@cruzio.com
Subject: Fathers and Neil
> << I hope you have the opportunity to tell your dad how important
> he is to you. >> > David L. Taylor
> Steve Goodman did a song about this........very good stuff.........still
> standin' in the shadow......of my Old Man...........Blue
Anyone like Dan Fogelberg's "Leader of the Band"??.... one of my
favorite "father" songs. And don't forget to tell grandfathers and
uncles and all the others who give you fatherly love and support how
important they are to you.
> defense of Neil Young
> Neil's concern and respect for humanity has been demonstrated, not only
> through his lyrics, but through his deeds as well.
> Mott
Neil's got my vote, Mott....thanks for speaking in his defense.
Catherine
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