Bloodlines Mailing List archives June 11, 1997
from the John Stewart email list
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bloodlines-digest Wednesday, June 11 1997 Volume 01 : Number 013
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: rdl@sprynet.com
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
this lurker has to finally come out. the lists so far are fantastic. but no one
mentioning hoyt axton. add to him from me: js of course, tom waits, micky
newberry, jim croce, and newcomer adam duritz.
pikepole out, going back into my hole now.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Netennis@aol.com
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
Here's alist of some of my favorites:
John Stewart of course
KT
Ralph McTell
Doc Watson
Merle Travis
Delmore Brothers
Tom Paxton
Nancy Griffith
Roseanne Cash
John Denver
Bruce Springsteen
Lots of 60's folk - Journeymen, Tarriers, Chad Mitchell Trio, MFQ, PPM, etc.
Steve Gillette
Weavers / Pete Seeger
Lyle Lovett
Pierre Bensusan
Emmylou Harris
Linda Ronstadt
I'm sure there are more! A compilation of these would be very interesting!
Gordon Kent
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: drwatsup@juno.com
Subject: favorites
nobody else likes Richie Havens but me??
Steve Rosenberg
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Steve <Loboaw@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
Here's a list of >>some<< of my favorites:
John Stewart, of course (you may remember him; tall guy, black hair,
used to do some banjo work-came from somewhere out West, I think...)
Merle Haggard (his voice was "rode hard and put away wet..."
Roseanne Cash (for, as she said at a concert, putting the "c--- back in
country")
Rosanne's dad Johnny (a voice with all the casualness of a piledriver)
The Carter Family (back when country was not a factory product and
there was a difference between the "C" and "W" of C&W
Bruce Springsteen (I was willing to forgive anything he did after
"Born in the USA" and "Philadelphia")
Bonnie Raitt
Elvis Presley (especially the preVegas guy; the King lives...)
John Lee Hooker (THE American music...)
Lightning Hopkins (-Ditto-)
Meatloaf (when doing Jim Steinman)
Judy Collins ("From Both Sides Now" and the "Wildflowers" album)
Aretha Franklin (I could listen to her sing the Yellow Pages...)
Cranberries (don't know if they can sustain it, but loved "No Need to
Argue")
the Stones (even the devil deserves some respect...)
Hootie and the Blowfish
the Animals
Marty Robbins
Fleetwood Mac
Stevie Nicks (especially when backing up that Stewart guy...no, no, the
one from out West, the picker, yeah, that's the one)
Warron Zevon (there have been days in which I was almost certain my
name was "Roland...")
Hoyt Axton
KT (three young boys who wear strange, short sleeve shirts, but mark my
words-one of these days they'll hit the big time...)
Creedence Clearwater Revival
John Fogarty (his "Fortunate Son", sung at a concert for Vietnam vets,
his first performance after the decade-long lawyer-induced silence,
brought the house DOWN).
Roy Orbison
All of the above are my most recent plays on the CD/tape. I even have
old vinyl of many of them. Not sure what to do with it, since some of
the albums have not been released as CDs or tapes.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Edraley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
O.K. ..the new person is going to get her licks in before this all goes away.
In addition to John Stewart:
Stan Rogers
Gordon Lightfoot
Ian and Syliva together or alone
Steve Goodman
Van Morrison
Cowboy Junkies
Tom Paxton
Pete Seeger ...with or without the Weavers
Leonard Cohen
Townes van Zandt
and for some newness ....John Gorka
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Edraley@aol.com
Subject: Re: JS fan music profile draft#1
Addendum ...
Forgot the good old San Francisco boys :
of course ...The Kingston Trio
Limelighters ....
and
Chad Mitchell ....
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Katharine Brooks <brookska@dickinson.edu>
Subject: request
Does anyone know a web site for info on Mickey Newbury? I'd like to see
if any of his stuff has been reissued on CD. Thanks.
Kate Brooks
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Edraley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
Has anyone heard ....Hart Rouge ..from Canada ...wonderful ...just wonderful
and new to the states?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Merle Stringfield <t_mstrin@qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
Hi Kent,
"A thorn in the side of Mrs Rose" I do believe it was called. Loaned it out
to someone once...never got it back. Hope their still enjoying it.
Merle
>>Leonard Cohen
>>Cowboy Junkies
>>John Gorka
>>
>>Definetly missed these!!!
>Leonard Cohen, but of COURSE! And can't leave out dearly departed Harry
Chapin.
>And I committed a significant sin in omitting Mason Williams, an integral
>part of the Kingston Trio-Smothers Brothers-John Hartford thread.
>And JOHN HARTFORD! How could I forget him! (He still navigates an occasional
>steamboat by the St. Louis when he visits for a show.) Meanest banjo-picker
>alive and a tremendous songwriter all 'round.
>Anyone ever hear of Biff Rose? Funny, quirky and warm, to boot. Another
>great 60's folksinger.
>And 'course, I still love tuning in to the Peter, Paul & Mary shows on PBS
...
>And on 'round we go ...
>Missouri Bird,
>Kent
>
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Merle Stringfield <t_mstrin@qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: favorites
Hi Steve,
We were saving him for the "Artists who play with their thumb only" catagory!!
Merle
>nobody else likes Richie Havens but me??
>Steve Rosenberg
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Christopher Newton <cnewton@fyi.net>
Subject: Re: favorites
>nobody else likes Richie Havens but me??
>Steve Rosenberg
I do. And add Judy Henske to the list.
Kit Newton
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: jalderson@journals.uchicago.edu
Subject: worst songs
Okay, a somewhat more dangerous game than the last, but still fun...
1. "Venus" -- the Bananarama version
2. "Wannabe" -- the Spice Girls
3. anything by Paula Abdul -- or Michael Bolton
Next?
- --Jane
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Steve <Loboaw@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: worst songs
And in the anything by a performing artist catagory:
Bruce Hornsby ("He changed my life!" Buddy, go get one...)
Spice Girls (Yes, I know it's been said, but they easily deserve two
negative votes on the same ballot: old Chicago precinct guideline-"Vote
early and often"...)
Sting (Sorry, AngelBravo, but his reach exceeds his grasp, tho not his
ego)
Bob Dylan (Springsteen once said he wanted to write like Dylan and sing
like Orbison; the latter would be far more impressive than the
former...)
Kenny G (How is it that he exists?...)
Every grunge band (Save a lot of time with this one...)
The Doors (They sounded dated when they started...)
later Neil Diamond
later Elvis Presley
And all this from a guy who can't even hum in tune!
Take care,
Lobo (AW)
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Nancy Talbott <cockatoo@bslnet.com>
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
At 08:04 AM 6/11/97, Steve wrote:
> John Fogarty (his "Fortunate Son", sung at a concert for Vietnam vets,
>his first performance after the decade-long lawyer-induced silence,
>brought the house DOWN)
Creedence Clearwater was the first concert I ever went to, at the tender age
of 15...LA Forum, around 1972 or so....
What's the deal with the "lawyer induced silence"? I always wondered what
happened to Fogarty?
Nancy
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: VinylDr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Music Exchange/worst song(s)
My 3 faves are already known to all of you, but with 5000 LPs in my front
room and 40000 LPs and 45s in my store, I like EVERYTHING except:
1) Ya-Ya (worst song EVER on the radio)...honorable(?) mention:Hanky
Panky
2) With the above two in mind.....ANY punk, heavy metal or (C)rap!!!
18 DAYS till John and Buffy in Santa Barbara (and counting!!!!)
"Now you know how <Happy> funky I can be" !!!!!
Vinylly, The Doc (Dennis)
P.S. Somebody said awhile ago that Jackson Browne "doesn't have punch" or
something like that....I submit to all of you to listen and write your
congressperson
or whatever to two songs off The Lives in the Balance LP, those being the
title song and "For America".....THEN tell me those two don't have the punch
of John's songs about this "Mother Country"
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Terry Tillman <TTillman@compuserve.com>
Subject: favorites
>nobody else likes Richie Havens but me??
>Steve Rosenberg
I do. I just saw him perform a few months ago in LA and he's as good as
ever. By the way, at a Festival in Sun Vally, Idaho in about 1981 I heard
him perform a song he wrote called "12". I've been looking, without
success, for the lyrics (or a recording of it) ever since. Do any of you
know where I might find them?
Terry Tillman
76132.64@compuserve.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: jalderson@journals.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Music Exchange -Reply
Nancy,
As I heard the story, when Fogerty refused to fulifill his contract with Fantasy records
(because he didn't want to put out an album of crap just to have an album out), he was
successfully sued for the rights to all of the material released by Fantasy. When he
then put out an album of his own, he was, again successfully I think, sued for
plagerism. Of his own material, now the property of Fantasy. So if this story is correct
(anyone out there to corroberate?), Fogerty would have been presented with an
enormous roadblock to any future recording. How does one not sound like oneself?
- --Jane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What's the deal with the "lawyer induced silence"? I always wondered what happened
to Fogarty?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Christopher Newton <cnewton@fyi.net>
Subject: Re: worst songs
"Feelings" --?
Yummy, Yummy, Yummy --?
Anything by Tony Orlando.
Kit Newton
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: jalderson@journals.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: worst songs -Reply
Ouch! Kinda hate to admit it, but I know these:
Feelings -- David Soul (of "Starsky & Hutch" fame)
Yummy etc. -- 1910 Fruitgum Company
I used to have a best friend with whom I would trade what we called "earbleeders" --
music so bad it induces cerebral hemorrage.
- --Jane
"memory like a dumpster"
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: "R.Geddes" <geddes@mcb.net>
Subject: Re: worst songs
Thanks Jane,I have been waiting for this!!
To start with, the worst song EVER!!
"Where Have All the Flowers Gone" by Marlene Dietrch. (I joke not!!)
In all the years since, no song has come closer..though a certain
production nightmare with brass section on an otherwise brilliant album
called "Signals in the Glass" came a bit close.
Rod.
- --
R.Geddes
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: GregDenis@aol.com
Subject: Favorites
Saw Greg Brown in concert last month. Hilarious, engaging, lovely performer.
"Dream Cafe" and his new Cd are terrific.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Patricia Russell <pruss@hollinet.com>
Subject: Re: Music Exchange/worst song(s)
VinylDr@aol.com wrote:
> 18 DAYS till John and Buffy in Santa Barbara (and counting!!!!)
I am a new user in the group. What does your remark about John and
Buffy in Santa Barbara in 18 days mean? I assume there is a concert.
Please send any details you have. Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Steve <Loboaw@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
Nancy Talbott wrote:
>
> What's the deal with the "lawyer induced silence"? I always wondered what
> happened to Fogarty?
>
> Nancy
In a dispute with CCR/manager/etc. he was basically unable to write,
publish, or perform music until a given amount of time had passed. When
it did, he released "Centerfield".
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: clhunt@csn.net (Chris and Liza Hunt)
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
>Fred Grittner wrote:
>>
>> Met John Gorka in the grocery store last week. Nice guy.
>
>Wow.........what grocery store??? Catherine
You Bet WOW! Give me all the details! Liza
Chris & Liza Hunt
Boys hell they were men when they stood knee deep in the Johnstown mud...
www.colorado.com/chaffee
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: clhunt@csn.net (Chris and Liza Hunt)
Subject: Re: worst songs
Are you kidding me? You must by clinically insane! Sting? Dylan? Neil?
These guys are great! I'll buy the rest but you may want to look into
getting some professional help :0)
>And in the anything by a performing artist catagory:
>
> Bruce Hornsby ("He changed my life!" Buddy, go get one...)
> Spice Girls (Yes, I know it's been said, but they easily deserve two
>negative votes on the same ballot: old Chicago precinct guideline-"Vote
>early and often"...)
> Sting (Sorry, AngelBravo, but his reach exceeds his grasp, tho not his
>ego)
> Bob Dylan (Springsteen once said he wanted to write like Dylan and sing
>like Orbison; the latter would be far more impressive than the
>former...)
> Kenny G (How is it that he exists?...)
> Every grunge band (Save a lot of time with this one...)
> The Doors (They sounded dated when they started...)
> later Neil Diamond
> later Elvis Presley
>
> And all this from a guy who can't even hum in tune!
>
>Take care,
>
>Lobo (AW)
Chris & Liza Hunt
Boys hell they were men when they stood knee deep in the Johnstown mud...
www.colorado.com/chaffee
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: clhunt@csn.net (Chris and Liza Hunt)
Subject: Re: worst songs
>
>To start with, the worst song EVER!!
>
>"Where Have All the Flowers Gone" by Marlene Dietrch. (I joke not!!)
>
>In all the years since, no song has come closer..though a certain
>production nightmare with brass section on an otherwise brilliant album
>called "Signals in the Glass" came a bit close.
>
>Rod.
>--
>R.Geddes
Great Song! Bad Rendition -
Liza
Chris & Liza Hunt
Boys hell they were men when they stood knee deep in the Johnstown mud...
www.colorado.com/chaffee
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: delausa@mailbox.syr.edu (Del Lausa)
Subject: best and worst (Music Exchange)
I leave the computer for a few days this time, and find fifty or so copies
of my record/CD collection/want list when I return. "Ditto" to almost
everything said. I'd add these to the "best" list:
Michael Franks, Steve Forbert, Richard Shindell, Dar Williams, and Daniel
Lanois.
To the best *and* worst list, I'd add Chris DeBurgh. "Worst" for "Lady in
Red". His early albums, though, are really quite interesting and evocative.
del
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Merle Stringfield <t_mstrin@qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: Music Exchange -Reply
The second lawsuit was not successful...Fogerty won because the Judge found
that although the songs were similiar, it was the "style of the performer."
John Fogerty played a few songs in the courtroom as part of his defense.
The two songs in question were "Old man down the road" (off of
"Centerfield") and one of the Creedance songs "Run through the Jungle."
One interesting footnote to the trail was Chuck Berry's name came as one
performer whose songs were similiar but his "style" was what was important.
Alot of musicians followed this pretty close since it would have had MAJOR
repercussions in the music world. Thankfully, the judge used some common
sense. Perhaps he was even a musician. FYI,
Merle
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: DMotley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
Hey Netenis (Gordon),
It's funny you should mention Steve Gillette. Back in the early 70's, when
I was living in Orange County, I recall that Steve Gillette used to play
every weekend at the Cask & Cleaver Restaurant on Tustin Ave. , in Orange.
My wife, who I was dating at the time, and I, saw him there many times.
Did you ever get a chance? I don't recall what songs he is famous for;
perhaps you can refresh my memory. Also, I believe you mentioned that you
saw JS at Chapman College.. I saw him there twice; once in '71 , when
there were only about 50 people in the audience, and again about a year later
when there were probably over a thousand people. It seems like it was just
yesterday.
Keep it flyin' ,
Mott
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Steve <Loboaw@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: worst songs
Chris and Liza Hunt wrote:
>
> Are you kidding me? You must by clinically insane! Sting? Dylan? Neil?
> These guys are great! I'll buy the rest but you may want to look into
> getting some professional help :0)
>
Sorry, sorry, but Sting is as bad as the Mamas and Papas used to be; he
gets in the way of his own music. Criminal offense. Bob Dylan? Fantastic
college sophmore who confused obscurity with insight. Early Neil Diamond
was a lot of fun, but "...no one heard at all, not even the CHAIR"?
Neil, partner, if you're expecting chairs to hear you, we've got to talk
about medication...
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: jalderson@journals.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Music Exchange -Reply -Reply
Merle,
Thanks much for the clarification on John Fogerty!
- --Jane
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: DMotley@aol.com
Subject: Re: worst songs
Lobo,
How could you include The Doors in your list of the worst. You're treading
on sacred ground here. And grundge..... I sort of agree with you here,
with one minor exception, Neil Young. Neil , whom I admire and adore, has
been termed " the Godfather of grundge."
O.K., you wan't some really bad music? How about " Yummy, Yummy, Yummy,
I've Got Love In My Tummy" by the 1910 Fruitgum Company? Or, who could ever
forget "Angel Baby" by Rosie & The Originals, or any song by Bobby Sherman?
Keep it flyin' ,
Mott
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Bill Rayner <doghelp@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: worst songs
> O.K., you wan't some really bad music? How about " Yummy, Yummy, Yummy,
> I've Got Love In My Tummy" by the 1910 Fruitgum Company?
Wasn't that the Ohio Express?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Eddie Armstrong <Eddie@eddiea.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Bob Dylan -he deserves a subject to himself ;-)
Steve <Loboaw@ix.netcom.com> writes
> Bob Dylan (Springsteen once said he wanted to write like Dylan and sing
>like Orbison; the latter would be far more impressive than the
>former...)
Sorry - slight disagreemnet with this.
Bob Dylan is without doubt (and without fear of contradiction :-) )the
most influential, and the best songwriter of all. And just to be even
more annoying - Ginsberg said Dylan was the most significant poet of the
latter part of the 20th century.
BTW, Springsteen also said 'Elvis put the sex into rock and roll and
Dylan put the intellect in.'
Don't bother to flame me I know I'm being just a tad provocative :-),
however Bob Dylan is, to me, the greatest writer by far.
I'd be very interested to know if that other songwriter we sometimes
mention, John something-or-other :-), has been influenced by or likes
Dylan.
- --
Eddie
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: DMotley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Austin City Limits
Dear Bloodliners,
Back in September, when we were only about 50 strong, we engaged in a letter
(E-Mail) writing campaign to Austin City Limits to request John's presence on
their T.V. show. Not long ago I saw a roster of this season's performers on
the show. I did not see John's name on this list.
Needless to say, it is time again for us to barrage them with our requests.
After all, if they can have a lightweight like Lyle Lovitt on their show,
surely they can squeeze in a living legend, like John! Now that we're over
150 strong, perhaps we can make a major impact with our requests for John to
appear on ACL. Once again, here's the address to E-Mail your requests to:
Laura_Bond@KLRU.pbs.org
I'm sending mine right now. Would the rest of you be so kind as to help
out? Thank's, I knew you would!
Keep it flyin' ,
Mott
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: "R.Geddes" <geddes@mcb.net>
Subject: Re: worst songs
>>To start with, the worst song EVER!!
>>
>>"Where Have All the Flowers Gone" by Marlene Dietrch. (I joke not!!)
>>
>>In all the years since, no song has come closer..though a certain
>>production nightmare with brass section on an otherwise brilliant album
>>called "Signals in the Glass" came a bit close.
>
>Great Song! Bad Rendition -
>Liza
>
>
OK..I'llgive you that one..did you ever hear it though??!!!
Rod
- --
R.Geddes
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: "R.Geddes" <geddes@mcb.net>
Subject: Re: Bob Dylan -he deserves a subject to himself ;-)
Just read the mail..how can you slag off Dylan!! I agree, Eddie!!
Rod.
- --
R.Geddes
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Kevin Woodward <kew@islandnet.com>
Subject: package in the mail
It finally arrived, my order from homecoming records that is! I have a
confession to make....... I read all your messages each day but I did not
believe that John Stewart could get any better than he was in the 70's.
Before now, the last record in my collection was Bombs Away Dream Babies. I
had a lot to learn!
I ordered CD's to replace some of my vinyl that were very worn out (it's
strange listening to Some Kind of Love without the Clack Clack) as well as
updating my collection. When I found this list I had no idea that John was
still recording.
I am so glad I have discovered John in the 90's. I could have missed all
this great music if it weren't for the internet.! The feeling and passion in
his music is better than ever!
I must admit that much of my record collection has flashed by me in the last
couple of days however I must add my 2 Canadian cents worth (just about 1
of your cents).
Other than that soulful passionate John Stewart of the 90's, my favorites are:
Harry Chapin (the late)
Bob Dylan
Lois Gottlieb (the late) and his friends the Limeliters
Eric Bogle
Stan Rogers (the late)
Garnet Rogers (a great writer and singer on his own)
Great Big Sea (a terrific Celtic Rock band from Newfoundland...you won't be
able to sit still)
Faith Petric
T.R. Ritchie (an incredible singer/songwriter from UTAH)
David Roth (an equally incridible singer/songwriter from Seattle)
Pete Seeger (just saw him at Seattle Folklife...the folk scene owes a great
deal to him)
Leonard Cohen (for those depressing days)
The Gypsey Kings (for those not so depressing days)
Joan MacIssac (the late) a great Canadian folksinger
The Paper Boys (a great Celtic Rock band from Vancouver)
Reilley and Maloney (from Seattle)
Tom Dundee (from Chicago)
On the other end of the spectrum:
The worst of the worst:
Anything that John Travolta has danced to
Anything played in Aerobics Classes
Rap (sounds like my old FIAT)
Most songs played on OLDIES radio stations
I think of you as my friends! Thanks so much for being there. The highlight
of my working day is my decaf coffee break on the net! I still get this
strange wonderful feeling when a message is posted from AB. We are so lucky
that he participates with us. We can never take that for granted.
Kevin THE CANUCK eh?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: alleycat@cruzio.com
Subject: Re: Music Exchange
> >> Met John Gorka in the grocery store last week. Nice guy.
> > Fred Gittner
> >Wow.........what grocery store??? Catherine
>
> You Bet WOW! Give me all the details! Liza
Hey.......you and me Liza.....we'll find that store. Hell, I need
groceries.....bet you do too.
> nobody else likes Richie Havens but me??
> Steve Rosenberg
Heck yes we like him!!
> Somebody said awhile ago that Jackson Browne "doesn't have punch"
> .....I submit to all of you to listen
> > ...to two songs off The Lives in the Balance LP,
> those being the title song and "For America".>>
> VinylDr
I saw him do most of "Lives in the Balance" here in Santa Cruz (he
frequently graces us with his presence) and it's almost all punch.
Jackson's got punch, integrity, tenderness; he's spent his life standing
up for what he believes is right. And please, don't start flaming me
with tabloid stories about Darryl Hannah........I believe in him.
> Andy M Stewart
> Christy Moore
> > --skip
Yaaay....someone else voted for Christy Moore. I like Andy Stewart too.
Also yes to Hoyt Axton and Jesse Colin Young. But why have Blue and I
been the only ones to cast a vote for Robert Earl Keen......you guys
oughta check him out....he's Texas at its best. He also comes to Santa
Cruz a lot....we love him here.
I don't understand the discussion of Dylan, The Stones, Elvis. I didn't
think we needed to mention them.....I assume almost everyone recognizes
their greatness. Don't want to hang out on their e-mail lists though.
HEY JOHN, just in case you're getting tired of listening to us rave
about other folks, remember: love you MADLY. Catherine
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Eddie Armstrong <Eddie@eddiea.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: request
Kate
>
>Does anyone know a web site for info on Mickey Newbury? I'd like to see
>if any of his stuff has been reissued on CD. Thanks.
The only one I know is:
http://www.edge.net/noma/wh/mn/
I think it's only his last album though
Let me know if you hear any more
- --
Eddie
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: JS fan music profile draft#1
Hey,
Don't worry about the accuracy of the profile list. As it stands now it
actually represents a sample (Note: I am still counting all of the subissions
at this point). It will have a margin of error or + or - some percentage
depending on the sample size. Also,if the submissions get to be too large I
am going to do a random sample of the results. It will be more accurate than
you think :-)
NED.
>Nick
>Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but many of the posters deliberately
>omitted names that had already been mentioned so we won't be able to get
>an accurate list.
>Shall we take this as a rough guide or ask those who didn't want to
>repeat names what those names were. You've made me curious now.
>--
>Eddie
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Musical Profile
OK, Here it is. These are the top 40 or so mentioned artists recommended by
John Stewart Fans. (JS, Kingston Trio and anyone closley associated with
them are assumed)
The sample is so big now that I doubt this list will change
much unless someone new starts getting a lot of votes. In actuality there are
over 200 other artists that were mentioned. This would suggest that John's
fans have tastes that are probably a little bit too diverse to accurately
profile.
In general it was anybody that got 3 or more votes, and a very few on here who
got only two votes were tied with a lot of other artists who didn't get on
the list. I left them on to make an even 40.
The most important artists we will discover probably aren't on this list. They
are those obscure ones that you didn't know of before now, (that only one or two
people knew of and mentioned) that are waiting to make a dent in your
collection. Check them out. I'm sure I'll check a few out.
This wasn't a contest to see who would win, but I believe Van Morrison
got the most votes.
John Stewart Fan Musical Profile
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David Ackles
Jackson Browne
Johnny Cash
Elvis Costello
Leonard Cohen
Iris DeMent
Sandy Denny/Fairport
Nick Drake.
Bob Dylan
Steve Earle
Robert Earle Keen
Joe Ely
Flying Burrito Brothers
Nanci Griffith
Judy Henske
Richie Havens
Kris Kristofferson
Gordon Lightfoot
John Martyn
Don McLean
Joni Mitchell
Van Morrison
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
Rick Nelson
Tracy Nelson
Mickey Newbury
Phil Ochs
Elvis Presley
John Prine
Tom Rush
Pete Seeger
Bruce Springsteen
Richard Thompson
Ian Tyson
Townes Van Zandt
Tom Waits
Jimmy Webb
Cheryl Wheeler
Neil Young
Warren Zevon
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: "Nick D'Amato" <damato.4@osu.edu>
Subject: Re: favorites
>nobody else likes Richie Havens but me??
>Steve Rosenberg
I'll give him a vote.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: paul rybolt <paulkris@erinet.com>
Subject: back to business
this second most favorite musician thing is totally out of hand. But it
sure has been fun. I really enjoyed Angel Bravo's votes. Had a short
road trip this morning and pulled out my Trancas/Centennial tape. Has
anyone else noted that Centennial may be the closest thing to American
Baroque ever written. I confess that I listen to a lot of Bach, Corelli,
Pachelbel ad nauseum and Centennial stacks right up there. I sure
enjoyed it this morning and then had a hit of Pilots In Blue. all be
well paul
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Nancy Talbott <cockatoo@bslnet.com>
Subject: Re: Music Exchange -Reply
Good GRIEF! That's almost unbelieveable...to have the power to prevent
someone from singing for an indeterminate period of time???? sheeeesh!
Amazing what people are capable of :(((
Thanks,
Nancy
At 10:46 AM 6/11/97 -0500, jalderson@journals.uchicago.edu wrote:
>Nancy,
>
>As I heard the story, when Fogerty refused to fulifill his contract with
Fantasy records
>(because he didn't want to put out an album of crap just to have an album
out), he was
>successfully sued for the rights to all of the material released by
Fantasy. When he
>then put out an album of his own, he was, again successfully I think, sued for
>plagerism. Of his own material, now the property of Fantasy. So if this
story is correct
>(anyone out there to corroberate?), Fogerty would have been presented with an
>enormous roadblock to any future recording. How does one not sound like
oneself?
>
>--Jane
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Nancy Talbott <cockatoo@bslnet.com>
Subject: Re: worst songs
>To start with, the worst song EVER!!
>
>"Where Have All the Flowers Gone" by Marlene Dietrch. (I joke not!!)
>
>In all the years since, no song has come closer..though a certain
>production nightmare with brass section on an otherwise brilliant album
>called "Signals in the Glass" came a bit close.
>
>Rod.
>--
>R.Geddes
>
I may be out of line here, but I kinda think you're treadin' on pretty thin
ice....John has done that song in several live shows I've been to, and it's
wonderful.
And if I understand you correctly, you think something on "Signals in the
Glass" ranks in your list of "worst"???? Sheeesh, any so-called "worst"
song John ever did in his life is better than anyone else's lifetime work.
IMHO, of course.
Nancy
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997
From: Nancy Talbott <cockatoo@bslnet.com>
Subject: Re: Musical Profile
Well, I must be living in a cave or something, because well over half of
those musicians, I've never even heard of. A couple that I've heard of, I
don't care much for, and the few that are left, I like, but dont own any of
their material.
I know I don't have the "intellectual" tastes in music that alot of people
here have, but I just like music, because it's MUSIC! After looking at my
list, it may look like I have an 3rd grade education (not!), but music, I
think is supposed to be FUN and enjoyable, While John's music does make one
think and reflect at times, (which I do enjoy) , I don't listen to music to
be "educated"...I listen to enjoy, relax and have a good time. Thus my
varied tastes...these are just ones that I own more than one recording
of...I have tons and tons more music in my library...
Here's my (very narrow) list of favorites....
JS always ranks #1
Ronnie Milsap
James Taylor (can't believe no one mentioned him)
John Denver
Enya
Marty Robbins
George Strait
Placido Domingo (he sang a duet with John Denver in the 80's called "Perhaps
Love" that'll knock yer socks off)
Creedence Clearwater
Alabama
Kenny G
John Michael Talbot (anyone know who he is? <G>)
Micheal W. Smith (ditto )
Glad (great Christian a capella group!)
Least favorites:
RAP (ewwwwwwww)
Grunge (ewwwwwww)
"HOT New Country" (what was wrong with the "old" country?)
Let the flaming BEGIN! <G>
Nancy
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