Bloodlines Mailing List archives June 2-5, 1997
from the John Stewart email list
bloodlines-digest Thursday, June 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 009
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997
From: Roy Fritz <RoyFritz@compuserve.com>
Subject: Why -2
First - welcome aboard LA Hazard =
(interesting name, is L.A. a hazard or just hazardous?,
I know NY is a hazard but...)
Second - my note about the Cashes - of course I meant May 96 not 95
at the Old Vienna in Mass also I never could spell---
Third - They're ALL my favorite lyrics.
Fourth - Thanks to everyone for the Sing My Heart Away lyric,
I've got to admit that I didn't hear it - but now I do.
Michelle - are you moved yet? - I've lost track of your schedule.
Roy in Rhode Island - a real hazard.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997
From: KrebsS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stewart & Cashes
Roy -- did you get an answer to the missing line??
A voice on the radio it knows my name
Like the songs ????????
Music on the radio is not the same
As the songs I heard when your eyes met mine.
"Sing My Heart Away" is one of my all time favorite songs but the missing
phrase is driving me nuts!! If you got an answer, could you post it,
please?
Thanks! Sue Krebs
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
Subject: Re: Why -2
>Michelle - are you moved yet? - I've lost track of your schedule.
Kansas tonight. Blessed Denver, CO tomorrow.
Michelle Stevens
"An angel on the road shoulder knows the way home"
- --JS
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997
From: rcaplow@decisive.com (Randi Caplow)
Subject: RE: vince martin
Just a polite recommendation to drwatsup: It is not very good practice
to post someone's phone numbers to a mailing list, as mailing lists
sometimes get unsavory individuals we don't know about, such as the
recent flame-thrower we just had, and it just is not good etiquette. In
the future, if you're passing addresses and phone numbers around, I'd
suggest to do it via private e-mail to whomever asks.
While I'm posting, I've noticed a few new subscribers, some of which are
musicians. In case you're not aware, we are doing a tribute CD for John.
If you are interested in participating, email me privately at
RCaplow@decisive.com, and I will fill you in with the details.
Randi.
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997
From: Robert <jen_rob_geo@earthlink.net>
Subject: Just a passing thought
Hey all you liners out there. I just wanted to remind everyone here of
one very important thing. That is "EDDIE MADE ALL THIS!" "Does Christ
hang out with the devil at night?" Mmmm...could be! Gaze at the lights
on the NEON BEACH and find out for yourselves :)
Wingless Angel Still Surviving(Robert)
P.S.
If anyone still has a copy of my post "MY personal Journey" can you
flash it on my way. My therapist wants to see. it. I like the nutty,
cookey, child that I am deleated my copy! Oh well, as John says "You
can't look back, when your moivng on. Buddy you gotta just go and sing
your songs."
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997
From: earlkctsr489@webtv.net (Earl Knoob)
Subject: AN OFFER YOU CAN'T REFUSE
ATTENTION BLOODLINERS
I have been in contact with John's agent (Mr. Gordon) and with John's
concurence I am formulating a plan for a Bloodliners
Weekend/Concert/Songwriter's workshop here in the cool pines of Chama,
NM over Labor Day Weekend (Aug 29 - Sept 1) .
OK, I hear your question ...."Where?" Get out your Rand McNally
Atlas.... Chama is in north-central New Mexico due north of Santa Fe,
just south of the Colorado border. At an elevation of almost 8000 ft,
it's nomally a great place to spend the last weekend of summer. With
Mr. Stewart in attendance, it's an offer you can't refuse!
In addition to the nice cool weather, Chama is home to America's Most
Spectacular narrow gauge steam railroad, the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic RR
(now how's that for a blatant plug - keep reading though).
So,.... here's the deal. In addition to the concert and the workshop,
we are planning a dinner and an all-day ride on the RR - both of which
John will be invited to participate in.
The cost for this program would be $75.00 per person or $ 125.00 per
couple. Train tickets, dinner, lodging, etc. would be extra. We are
toying with the idea of creating a package deal which would include
rental car from Albuquerque, NM (nearest gateway city) as well as
lodging, dinner, train tickets. In short, participants would arrange
thier own transportation to ABQ, we would handle the rest.
Tentative Itinerary:
Fri, Aug 29: Travel to ABQ and Chama. Informal get-together that
evening in Chama.
Sat. Aug 30: Ride C&TS RR (all day 10AM - 4:30PM). Dinner at 6:00PM.
Concert Starting at 8:00PM.
Sun. Aug 31: Songwriter's Workshop - time TBA.
Mon. Sept. 1: Return Home or do other stuff (like see Taos, Santa Fe,
Durango, CO, etc.)
In order for all of this to happen and to make it worth John's time, I
will need a minimum of 60 dedicated Stewartistas to sign up. As we are
only talking 90 days in the future, I need some immediate feedback. In
order to handle what I hope will be a mountain of email, I have set up a
seperate email address. Please write to:
JSweekend@webtv.net.
Also, if you have any ideas how to help promote this event, SPEAK UP.
....cool weather (high temp of 75, - sure beats 115+ in PHX), pine
trees, clean mountain air, cool old steam trains...and an evening - or
two - with John Stewart...what a way to end a summer!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997
From: Roy Fritz <RoyFritz@compuserve.com>
Subject: Sing My Heart Away
For Sue and anbody else mildly interested..
Two good replies to my question about Sing My Heart Away
(Live at the Turf available from Folk Era - where's my fee Ian?)
From Gordon Kent:
I think the missing lyric is
"The songs that Boudeleaux rhymed"
as in Boudeleaux Bryant the songwriter.
From Charlie Woodward:
Roy, I hear it as "the songs of Boudeleau Bryant" but I'm not sure.
I'm playing the song as I write this and I'm more inclined to go
along with Gordon.
Sue, our only hope is that Angelbravo will read this and set
us all straight - it will probably turn out to be
'the songs a poodle would write' or something.
Please John or Dave - don't leave us hanging -
what is the correct lyric
Roy -
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997
From: drwatsup@juno.com
Subject: Re: vince martin
thanks for the tip. makes sense. i'm rather new to this as you can tell.
steve
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997
From: DMotley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Chat
Just a reminder about our monthly chat. It will be tonight (Tues. June 3,
at 6:30pm Pacific, 9:30 Eastern). Dave will be with us, John will probably
not, since he is on the road somewhere on the "Right Coast". Be thinking
of some questions that you would like to pose to Dave. Since he is a music
teacher, I'm anxious to ask him if he ever uses any of John's material in his
classroom teaching. See you tonight, and remember to...... Keep it flyin' ,
Mott
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997
From: "R.Geddes" <geddes@mcb.net>
Subject: Re: Rough Sketches reverb
>OK, OK, I love AB's music (got to touch that base before proceeding
><g>) and all and have favorite lyrics and songs.
> But...
> Been listening to Rough Sketches. Excellent writing, and I'd love to
>hear the whole opera. However, I think the production on the first two
>tracks way over did the reverb. I found that, to my ear, it got in the
>way of hearing his voice. One of the critical features of Rough Sketches
>is the sound (I inadvertently typed a "w" for the "s" and it worked, but
>I changed it back to avoid confusing myself) of his voice, which to me
>sounds wearied by the road.
> Any other points of view on this? BTW, I'm listening to the CD version.
>Some folks were talking about the difference between the casette and CD;
>for those of you who have heard both, does the difference effect what
>I'm talking about.
>
>-Lobo (AW)
>
Know what you mean..I think the tape is better, but that is just an
opinion..I miss the "moody" Interview with an Angel!!
Rod.
- --
R.Geddes
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997
From: "Ronald A. Fleshman" <insman@citynet.net>
Subject: Re: Rough Sketches reverb
Steve wrote:
> OK, OK, I love AB's music (got to touch that base before proceeding
> <g>) and all and have favorite lyrics and songs.
> But...
> Been listening to Rough Sketches. Excellent writing, and I'd
> love to
> hear the whole opera. However, I think the production on the first two
> tracks way over did the reverb. I found that, to my ear, it got in the
> way of hearing his voice. One of the critical features of Rough Sketches
> is the sound (I inadvertently typed a "w" for the "s" and it worked, but
> I changed it back to avoid confusing myself) of his voice, which to me
> sounds wearied by the road.
> Any other points of view on this? BTW, I'm listening to the CD
> version.
> Some folks were talking about the difference between the casette and CD;
> for those of you who have heard both, does the difference effect what
> I'm talking about.
>
> -Lobo (AW)
Lobo:
I noticed that, too. I was reluctant to bring it up on the board,
because I'm such a fan. Wonder if this was by design??
Ron
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997
From: "L.A.Hazard" <lhazard@nr.infi.net>
Subject: What's in a name?
At 01:20 PM 6/2/97, Roy in Rhode Island wrote:
>First - welcome aboard LA Hazard
>(interesting name, is L.A. a hazard or just hazardous?,
>I know NY is a hazard but...)
>
In actuality, I AM a NY Hazard - born out on the Island - back in '50.
And I'm sure you could get takers for both sides regarding LA.
The first time I ever signed as L A Hazard - someone responded....."Isn't
that redundant?"
For me however, The L is for Louis and the A is for Albert
One of my earliest memories involves my first grade teacher - Miss Butts
(really) - she had the habit of writing each child's name on the board as
we introduced ourselves that first day. When it came to my turn she wrote
it this way.......
Lou is A. Hazard
(I still think she should have paid for some of the therapy!) ;-)
Of course the real clicker came when I graduated from High School in '68.
The man announcing our names as we crossed the stage was Austrian - spoke
with a VERY thick accent. He was my German teacher and we got along well.
Being '68 and all - there was a lot of controversy with the school board
and long hair (damn hippies!) -
So when he announced me as Louise Alberta Hazard -
I thought it was an hilarious post-script to the previous twelve years.
They got me coming and going! ;-)
Oh well....
My son at least grew up during the days of the Dukes of Hazzard - and had
it a little bit easier.
Thanks for the welcome!
L.A.
"Nothing here is free - we can all show the scars.." JS
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997
From: Bob Moore <bmoore@fastlane.net>
Subject: Re: Why are we here & Fred's questions
Bloodliners,
I have found myself lurking the last few weeks, as I have found myself
needing to pound the pavement for work -- my teaching position was
"absorbed" in the rearrangement of courses and schedules for next year.
So, rather than let anger govern my posts (I'm still pretty p.o.'d about
it all), I thought I'd wait.
My situation is one reason why we're here -- to share how John's music
helps us all over life's little speed bumps. Of course, my situation
pales next to Robert's. I was moved incredibly by your story, Robert,
and I was further moved by John's reply and offer to bring your
collection up to date. Class defined!
For a long time "Cannons in the Rain" was my favorite of JS' albums.
Now it alternates between "Airdream Believer" and "Rough Sketches." My
first listen to RS left me a little indifferent, but it has really grown
on me. But AB really finds the CD player regularly. I also listen to
"Deep in the Neon" and "Lost Songs" fairly frequently.
Like Fred (my old Vietnam buddy), I am interested in the evolution of
songs, both artistically and technically. As John said, changes are
just that -- changes. Sometimes it's to try something new, sometimes
just something different. "July, You're a Woman" every night for 30
years, played the same way? No way! The Big Guy would go nuts! That's
why I loved seeing the Trio and John in concert -- they never did the
same songs exactly the same way twice. For the casual fan, they
probably sounded just like the records, but for us fanatics Trioistas,
Stewartistas), we could tell the difference. John now takes that idea
even further in evolving his songs, and taking us along for the ride.
As to the great "Evangeline" debate, I prefer the RS version to Bandera,
because of the major versus minor key. And I happen to like the way the
drum comes in at the end (sorry, Fred). I haven't been able to discern
much difference in any of the cassette / CD cuts on RS, except for
"Interview with an Angel." I haven't decided about that song yet --
they're just different to me, neither one better or owrse than the
other.
As I've mentioned in previous posts, I had introduced some of John's
songs to my students. Some of them went to the U2 concert when they cam
through. They said they got really excited when they did "Daydream
Believer!" It was those kids and the connection we made (partly with
the help of JS' music) that has helped me cope with my dismissal. They
were probably more upset than I was!
We're here because we care -- about humanity, about each other, and
about an artist who truly binds us together. Just being fans isn't
enough. I've lurked in AOL's MMC folders for Mary Chapin Carpenter and
Nanci Griffith, and I don't get the same feeling of family, of community
that I do here. Maybe it's the lifelong struggles we've edured just
finding John's music over the years that has made us better people.
Thanks for enduring my ramblings -- I guess I save up and let go with an
epic every few months!
"God speaks to us all a little differently, hoping we'll tell each
other"
-John Stewart
Bob
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997
From: ALLMuse <sprest02@sprynet.com>
Subject: When You've Been Away
Today I had the great pleasure of delving deep into the KT catalog,
selecting CHILDREN OF THE MORNING. What is amazing is that John's music
of the time was already so incredibly thought provoking...
I have been listening to the song "When You've Been Away For A Long
Time" over and over for about half an hour now....and it zoomed in me
like a stealth bomber hitting the taregt. God...this is incredible!
I have been away for a long time. Thanks John for knowing that thirty
years ago.
Steve
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997
From: DBATTI@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stewart & Cash
<< But thanks for reminding us about "The Finger" ... Dave told us the next
ish is due in June, right?
Hey, can't wait!
(translated: It IS still due in June, right? Please, Mister ... ) >>
We're 2 Red Wing victories + a week or so away from a Finger...."Dave"
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997
From: "Charlie Woodward" <cwoodward@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stewart & Cash
Speaking as a "Wing Nut", that would make it due about a week from
Saturday!!
Charlie
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997
From: DMotley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Chat
Don't ask me why my reminder about last night's chat posted at 2:48 am on
Wed. the 4'th. I remember sending it yesterday morning (the 3'rd). Oh
well, that's aol for you. Glad that all of you who did, made it. For those
of you who didn't make it to the chat, I am sending Ron ("Clack") a copy of
the transcript and it should be up at Clack"s Cellar soon.
Keep it flyin' , Mott
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 97
From: "Barbara Kalben" <BKalben@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Favorite lyrics
I loved reading about favorite lines and lyrics. Besides those already
listed, some of my favorite lyrics include:
I still can remember Pa coming home drunk with the boys from the union hall
station
And it's hard to believe all the words we all read "We are living in God's
favorite nation"
And I knew he was ill from the size of his pills, but he choked on the
preacher's salvation
And I know that his blood it still flows in my veins as I fall for each
blue-eyed temptation
Was it you all along, good Jesus?
Were you all along the right way?
Oh, you told me you were
But the writing was blurred
The people who told me they twisted your words
Crying "Burn, child, burn"
Miss America, I got your game, it's a Christian burlesque show
Feeding their eyes on your sweet young thighs, pretending, yeah, that you
don't know
Bobbie
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997
From: PBronson1@aol.com
Subject: KDAY - 1971
A while back I promised to post the playlist from the John Stewart concert
broadcast live from the Troubadour on KDAY (AM 1580) in L.A. October 14,
1971:
Touch of the Sun
Just an Old Love Song
Bring It On Home
Little Road
Light Come Shine
California Bloodlines (with the then-new final verse -- "Wonder where we
were," etc.)
Wolves in the Kitchen (brought down the house, as always)
WIllard
Never Goin' Back
Alligator Man (Chris Darrow solo)
July You're a Woman (with "Fresno Mister" instead of Seattle in the intro)
Shackles & Chains
Mother Country
Some hilarious commentary by John--including a monologue about dating a girl
who later became a nun and who, at the drive-in, refused all advances and
"couldn't have been pried off the car door by prison authorities".
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997
From: wingless-angel@juno.com (Robert J McConnell)
Subject: Stewart Songs On T.V.
Hey All,
Well I finally moved my "pad" to this address and I like it much
better. Here the only stuff I get is related to John.
I was wondering if anyone else has had the following experince.
About two months ago on the show "Renagade"(U.S.A. Network) the
lead star(Lorenzo Lomas forgive my spelling) sang a line or two from
"Lonsome Picker" as he was washing off the dirt from a tussel with a bad
guy. I was so glad to hear it, and have been trying to think of other
times John's songs have appeared on T.V. Of course there is the Monkies
but what about other shows?
Wingless Angel Still Surviving(Robert)
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997
From: "David L. Taylor" <davidltaylor5@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Stewart Songs On T.V.
Hi Robert,
No JS message here, but I once waited on line for an hour and a half to get
Lorenzo's autograph for my wife (no, really!). I was prepared to dislike
him for his Hollywood pretty-boyness, but he is really a nice guy. Very
polite to his fans and posed with anyone who had a camera.
David
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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997
From: "L. Kent Martin" <martink@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Stewart & Cash
>We're 2 Red Wing victories + a week or so away from a Finger...."Dave"
Yay! :)
Many thanks, Dave.
And go get 'em, Red Wings! (If the Blues got beat by anybody, 'least it was
the Wings with Shanny & Co.)
Missouri Bird,
Kent
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997
From: DMotley@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stewart Songs On T.V.
Robert,
Have you ever seen a movie called "Hot Dog, The Movie" . It's a zany teen
radical skiing flick, which features one of the main characters playing the
guitar to his romantic interest and singing "Dreamers On The Rise". Then,
there's "Smokey & The Bandit III" . There's two Stewart songs in that
movie. I believe the ending theme is "Midnight Wind" Wish I could see
some of those old Smothers Bros. shows that John was on. If anyone out
there has any of these, please let me know! Can any of you think of more
of John's work that has been featured in the media?
Keep it flyin' ,
Mott
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997
From: wingless-angel@juno.com (Robert J McConnell)
Subject: Re: Stewart Songs On T.V.
Hmmm.....I will have to check out those movies. I also would love to know
if there is anyway to get the S. Brothers shows. That would be very
interesting indeed!
Wingless Angel Still Survivivng(Robert)
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997
From: delausa@mailbox.syr.edu (Del Lausa)
Subject: John in Ohio?
Hey, all you Ohio bloodliners--quit holding out on us! How was the
"Intimate Evening"/ Concert last weekend? Someone must have been there.
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
Subject: Untitled
Dear bloodlines@world.std.com,
For the record, I didn't write" Wish I was a headlight on a West bound
train..." It's a public domain verse John Phillips and added to Chilly Winds
when we wrote it.
JS
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997
From: MINORTRIPS@aol.com
Subject: Re: John in Ohio?
Both the show on Saturday and the evening get together were great! Both were
full houses - about 30 of us at the party (max allowed) and I would estimate
300 at the show. Pete Crossland organized the whole weekend and originated
the entire concept. I think John was pleased as were all who attended. Most
of us at the get together were a bit shy about talking or asking questions so
John sang and carried the load by himself. Perhaps it might have been a good
idea to write down some questions ahead of time that John could reply to.
John remarked he was sick on Friday night but if he had not mentioned it
onstage no one would have know it by his performance. The nature center he
was at was a perfect facility for the show.
An interesting (to me) tidbit. John told about how his father was a trainer
of harness race horses and that he spent some of his youth working with the
horses. I was shocked because harness racing is a real passion of mine, in
fact I have a horse who will be racing soon named after one of JS songs
"Reason to Rise". Sent John a photo and promised him I would keep him up to
speed on Reasons progress.
Hope this answers some of your questions about Ohio.
Bobby C
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997
From: Merle Stringfield <t_mstrin@qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: Stewart Songs On T.V.
Here is a list called "JS: Video Memorabilia"
1963 Jack Benny Show (Tijuana Jail; I'm Goin home)
1967 Monkees TV Show (Daydream Believer)
1973 Midnight Special (?)
1975 Smother Brothers (Survivors)
1979 Solid Gold (Gold)
1979 Magic Mountain KT Reunion (PBS & on video)
1980 Evening @ the Improv (The American Way)
1982 Blue water,white death (movie: deck hands sing "Chilly Winds"
1983 Smokey & bandit part 3 (Ticket for the wind)
1986 Hot Dog:The Movie (Chuck Mcdermott sings: Dreamers on the rise)
1986 Go West Young Girl: Movie (John sings title song)
1987 Rosanne Cash (Video of "Runaway Train")
1988 Nashville Now (Midnight of the world;runaway train)
1988 Sing Out America (John + Nick Renyolds & Judy Collins)
1990 Rodney Crowell (John's painting in video of "If looks could kill)
1990 Straight Shooter: movie (John refects on John Phillips)
1990 Rosanne Cash Interiors: Movie (Dance with the tiger)
Theres gotta be more though....anybody?
Thanks, Merle
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997
From: "David L. Taylor" <davidltaylor5@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Stewart Songs On T.V.
19?? - Texas Across the River - Song of the same name.
John was on an LA t.v. dance program in 1969-70 where he was featured
singing many of the Bloodlines songs.
David
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997
From: "Bob Elliot" <slowcoach@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: Another John Stewart
Hi
Here is an email I received; thoght it was quite amusing.
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk./~slowcoach/basement/bobs.html
Date sent: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:55:20 +0100 (BST)
To: slowcoach@easynet.co.uk
From: john.stewart@utmb.edu ()
Subject: John Stewart Guestbook
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
(john.stewart@utmb.edu) on Thursday, June 5, 1997 at 19:55:20
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contact: John Stewart
country: USA
city: Houston
comments: I like your page. I didn't know there was someone that had
that many albums and shared my name.
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