Bloodlines Mailing List archives April 23-25, 1997
from the John Stewart email list
Talk about the tribute tape and more... -REB
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Subj: Bolinas
Date: 97-04-23
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
KShep-
When my family vacationed in Bolinas in the '70s (I was just a kid) it was
a quiet out of the way place for people to get away from it all. I remember
my parents commenting to me later (when I was in college) that they hear it
was now being over-run by "drug-using hippies" and they didn't want to go
back anymore.
Too bad for my parents... they might have met John and Buffy walking on the
beach!
Don't know much about it now, haven't been back for years.
Michelle
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Subj: Covers
Date: 97-04-23
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
>Also, I hate to try to out-weird anyone, but I know I heard John Davidson
>sing "California Bloodlines" at least once on TV, and am afraid he may have
>recorded it as well.
This brings up a good question. As far as the music biz goes, can a writer
disallow the recording of one of his or her songs, or do they have to
simply endure things like this?
>Anyone hear Michael Bolton do "Willard?"
This is a joke, right?
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Subj: JS in Newsweek
Date: 97-04-23
From: lcfoster@sdcoe.k12.ca.us (Laurie (and Bob , Katie and Matt) Foster)
The new issue of Newsweek has a story about an adult summer camp
that lets the atendees be in rock and roll (and other kinds) of bands.
The headline on the story is "Daydream Believers" At least John's
lyric made Newsweek.
Today his words, tomorrow his picture!
Bob Foster
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Subj: Re: Cody
Date: 97-04-23
From: KKirby@OCI.net
Ron,
Thanks. I'll reread "The Red Pony" (since I was an English major before
...). I'm sure my husband will read "The Red Pony" since he loves Steinbeck,
if he hasn't read this before.
Many thanks for the insight!!
Karen
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Subj: Re: Ghost of the Super Chief
Date: 97-04-23
From: paulburbank@earthlink.net (paulburbank)
sorry bout the bad timing --born in rosemead --played in elmonte and
worked at the ice house as a b tender in the 70s-- computer problems
--trying to get back up to speed --back to work--do i need to resign w
majordomo--puter got cleared out??love all paul burbank--capitola on a
weekend must be heaven --
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Subj: Fwd: Lonesome Pickers
Date: 97-04-23
From: Angelbravo@aol.com
DAdarrio light gauge bronze are the best.
----- Attached Item -----
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
Can any of you "Lonesome Pickers" out there recommend favorite strings for
acoustic guitar.
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Subj: Re: Lonesome Pickers
Date: 97-04-23
From: M.J.Mooney@Bradford.ac.uk (Mike Mooney)
At 02:30 AM 23/04/97 -0400, AngelBravo wrote:
>
>DAdarrio light gauge bronze are the best.
>
Now you've gone and done it, John. You'll have us all going out and buying
them, and then writing complaints to D'Addario that they don't make our
playing sound like John Stewart! ;~)
Reminds me of the 60s when one of the string manufacturers (Rotosound? Ernie
Ball?) marketed a string 'designed by Eric Clapton'. It always conjured up
for me a picture of Eric with a blank sheet of paper and a pencil and ruler
- he draws a tiny circle, and then a straight line running out from it:
"There you are guys, I think that should do it..."
Mike 'Slowhand' Mooney
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Subj: Fwd: Stewart Songs
Date: 97-04-23
From: Susan1136@aol.com
Wait a minute! Just w-a-i-t a minute! I thought I was the only person
around who ever heard of PJ Proby! I never realized the Stewart who wrote
Three Week Hero was John! Wow... I've been a fan of Proby since I saw him
on Beatles Around the World back in '64....or was it Shindig?!? "Three short
weeks ago I was the lowest of the low, I knew nothin', now there's nothin' I
don't know...." I won't even tell you how rare that lp is!
And by the way, I'm sure you know that Nick Reynolds' nephew Joey was in the
Beat Farmers....
As some old friends in a band called the Shirts used to say, "Everything is
circular."
Susan
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Subj: Re: Covers
Date: 97-04-23
From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield)
Hi Michelle
The persons or company that holds the licensing rights to the songs can do
anything they choose. Case in point: The Beatles recording of "Revolution"
for a Nike commercial. Paul, George, Ringo or Yoko, can do nothing if
Michael Jackson says yes. Its a shame, and illustrates why artists should
retain the rights to their songs, if they can. Thanks, Merle
At 09:55 PM 4/22/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>Also, I hate to try to out-weird anyone, but I know I heard John Davidson
>>sing "California Bloodlines" at least once on TV, and am afraid he may have
>>recorded it as well.
>
>This brings up a good question. As far as the music biz goes, can a writer
>disallow the recording of one of his or her songs, or do they have to
>simply endure things like this?
>
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Subj: A BUNCH OF NUTS WHO HAPPEN TO BE SERIOUS FOLK MUSICOLOGISTS
Date: 97-04-24
From: alleycat@cruzio.com
Roy wrote:
> a busload of nuts
> (oops, I mean serious folk musicologists) blasting along 66 would be great.
Hey Roy, I wasn't planning on doing the 66 trip but the way you describe
it makes it awfully hard to resist. The entire post was great--that's
one that will be saved in my Bloodlines folder. Catherine
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Subj: Running down the road
Date: 97-04-24
From: Loboaw@ix.netcom.com (Steve)
'Liners:
Speaking of being on the road. I'll be riding from eastern PA thru
Sturgis, SD, to Buffalo, WY, then on down to Albu and Phoenix, and then
home, all in August. Maybe some overlap with 66. Would love to swing by
and say hello to anyone standing by the side of the road holding onto a
sign that just says, "Please...". Maybe sit around and tell outlandish
John Stewart stories ("Were you there when he offered to strangle the
sound guy who had all the leads reversed?" "You heard him with the
Trio-that's nothing: I first heard him humming a prerelease version of
'Chilly Winds' while he was still prenatal..." "Yeah? Well, _I_ first
heard him when he was circling the cosmos playing back-up banjo to Jimi
Hendrix [they're VERY eclectic in the prebirth cosmos and, besides, all
music is really just the blues anyway...].") over a cup of tea while my
Harley cools.
Someone reported that a listener at one of John's performances
commented that the crowd was a "little long in the tooth." Yes, well,
survivors often look older than their age...
Take care,
Steve
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Subj: Re: Running down the road
Date: 97-04-24
From: paulburbank@earthlink.net (paulburbank)
steve enjoyed your observations regarding the dental status of those of
us over 20--30---40--
beats the hell out of the alternative
paul
CABO323
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Subj: Re: Fwd: Stewart Songs
Date: 97-04-24
From: jparisi@esslink.com (John Parisi)
Susan1136@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> And by the way, I'm sure you know that Nick Reynolds' nephew Joey was in
>the Beat Farmers....
>
>
i heard that nick's nephew died. is this true? i always wondered what
the connection was as they recorded "never going back" on their first lp
john
jparisi@esslink.com
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Subj: RE: Spitbucket, Tribute Recording
Date: 97-04-25
From: rcaplow@decisive.com (Randi Caplow)
Not sure what you mean by a 4-track DAT tape. i didn't know those existed. My
guess is that I can't, and it would be best if you all mixed your tracks down
to a master media (2 stereo tracks on cassette or DAT, preferrably not open
reel). Otherwise, if I receive songs still on mulitple tracks, I would have
to mix them, which I'd rather not get into, because that's a way of me
interpreting your artistic expression. Unless I'm misunderstanding the
question...?
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From: Michelle Stevens[SMTP:ddunet@concentric.net]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 1997 10:00 AM
Subject: Spitbucket, Tribute Recording
I hope y'all are still up for it. Contact Randi on this list for specifics.
Randi, can you copy from a 4-track DAT tape?
Michelle, quite serious today and wearing the moon on her feet
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Subj: Re: Stewart Songs
Date: 97-04-25
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
Savoring one of life's great joys--listening to a JS creation for the first
time. Surprised to hear Tim Hardin's Lady From Baltimore on Neon Beach.
Remember hearing Johnny Cash version on TV and radio years back and loved
it. JS version knocked me out. Bluesman ..........out.
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Subj: Tribute tape
Date: 97-04-25
From: bmoore@fastlane.net (Bob Moore)
Bloodliners,
It occurred to me that it might be a good idea for those of us planning
to contribute to the tribute tape to post to the list which of John's
songs we each would like to record. That way, we can avoid 87 versions
of "July" or "Daydream Believer." It will allow some of us to adjust
our choices to prevent repitition. What to you all think?
Bob
Ft. Worth
P.S. Dave -- we have a Border's in FW. Do you think Spitbucket might be
interested in trying to book John on a Texas/Border's tour?
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Subj: cassettes
Date: 97-04-25
From: donfish@sttl.uswest.net (D&L Ruiz/Peeveyroo)
My CD player has been broken for the past week, so I've taken the
opportunity to listen to three of the JS cassette-onlys -- ``Escape from
Arizona,'' ``Teresa and the Lost Songs'' and ``Rocket Roy in the Real
World.'' All are wonderful albums that I don't listen too near enough
because of the format. But hearing them all again, I am reminded that
all three rank with ``Bandera'' and ``Rough Sketches.''
My first hope would be that all three could be released on CD. But I was
also struck my what a spectacular single CD could be created from the best
of these three cassettes. Here is my dream lineup from these three albums,
(passing over any songs that John has recorded on other CDs):
1-Radio Slaves
2-Escape from Arizona
3-Comfort Me
4-Future Earnings
5-World Goes Rolling
6-Redempion for the Man
7-China Dancer
8-Dead Snakes
9-Lilly and Joe
10-Annie Born and Died
11-Across the Milky Way
12--Song of All the Angels
13--Looking Back Johanna
14--Wings of St. Michael
15--White Babies in Roses
And even that leaves out some wonderful songs. And then if you added
Secret Tapes 1&2 into the mix... Oh man, oh man.
Anyway, I don't guess I really expect such a CD. But I do want to suggest
to any Bloodliners who have passed over these albums simply because
of the format that they are missing some first-class John Stewart. -- Don
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Subj: Re: cassettes
Date: 97-04-25
From: bmoore@fastlane.net (Bob Moore)
I have to agree, especially about "Teresa." So many good songs! "Annie
Born & Died" helped me through a rough time in '92 when I lost both
parents in 8 1/2 months. John always seems to be there when we need
him.
Bob
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Subj: Re: cassettes
Date: 97-04-25
From: fgrittner@earthlink.net (Fred Grittner)
I've haven't posted in several months but I've been a faithful reader. I
want to jump back in by joining Peeveyroo and Bob in asking Bloodliners to
get the tapes. I played the tapes all winter (including Rough Sketches) in
my car and I had a great time getting to know these many " new" songs.
I wouldn't have guessed it but Rocket Roy and the Real World is my favorite
of the Homecoming tapes. I think I started obsessing on it by March,
playing it continously for several weeks. First, I like the musical
experimentation, the synthesizers and percussion stuff. The Ghost of the
Superchief always seemed to play as I headed down Highway 61 towards home at
nightfall, with the railroad tracks on my right: definitely chickenskin
music. White Babies and Roses is what Bryan Ferry always wished he could
write: a hypnotic, dreamy song about who knows what! Living in the World is
so simple and direct but like so many things in this album, it gets inside
you. John and his subliminal hooks.
Above all, I am moved by the poems: Slaughter Lane, Blaze and Diego, Ghost,
I Remember America, Hopeless Utopia. The more I got into the words and
images it came to me that John is a Beat. When Allen Ginsberg died a few
weeks ago it sparked associations; Jack Kerouac, Ginsburg, Lawrence
Ferlinghetti, and John. Kerouac's On the Road novel merges in behind
Johnny Flamingo on that blue dream road. Highway 66 and John's quest to
remember it seem connected to that search for freedom long ago . Hopeless
Utopia as a postscript to Howl.
In a discussion of Kerouac an author notes he commented on a "society
increasingly worried about conformism and a faceless social order with a
vision of freedom and restless movement..." Sounds to me like a commentary
on Rocket Roy and many other of John's recent work, where he remembers the
past "like you remember the dead, " relates observations about the strange,
empty, tasteless world so many of us inhabit, and then tries to find a way
to get out of the promised land, in this case driving down the great
American highway.
I guess I better check in more often if I want to keep my posts to a
reasonable length. But please do check out the tapes. And don't forget the
Bandera CD, the great folk-rock album of the 90s.
Fred
p.s. let's get the tribute album going.
p.p.s. I second JS: Daddario light bronze strings work great for me.
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Subj: The Latest
Date: 97-04-25
From: DBATTI@aol.com
Hi Everybody,
Nick's nephew is alive and well, it was Country Dick, the lead singer of the
Beat Farmers who had a heart attack & keeled over dead on stage...what a way
to go! He was quite a chartacter...sound men would garbage bag the stage
monitors so they wouldn't get soaked by the beer...that's what happens when
you lay on your back and drink with your feet!...true story, ask AB.
You get the Finger soon...late May.
Hot rumor...cassette soon to become CD w/bonus tracks...."Teresa and the Lost
Songs".
Strings? I use the kind that comes with the bass...you mean you have to
replace them?
Capitola anyone? I'll be there with my good buddies John & Buffy. Supposed
to be a cool venue.
And finally, this is the story I got about Cody...one time in Chadds Ford the
artist Jamie Wyeth and the songwriter John Stewart decided to court the muses
together (this was after JS had read Steineck's The Red Pony)....John came up
with Cody and Jamie came up with the cover to the Willard album...I'd say a
pretty successful courtin'.
Dave
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Subj: Re: Running down the road
Date: 97-04-25
From: Loboaw@ix.netcom.com (Steve)
Re: Long of tooth
Try over 50...
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Subj: Re: cassettes
Date: 97-04-25
From: MFinleyCS@aol.com
In a message dated 97-04-25 03:01:02 EDT, you write:
<< Anyway, I don't guess I really expect such a CD. But I do want to suggest
to any Bloodliners who have passed over these albums simply because
of the format that they are missing some first-class John Stewart. -- Don
>>
Oh yes, oh yes, there should be such a CD. Absolutely. Folk Era, come in,
Folk Era. Howzaboutit?
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Subj: Re: Stewart Songs
Date: 97-04-25
From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield)
Bluesman,
Pick up a copy of the Tim Hardin tribute album "True Voices"...John does a
reggae version of "Lady came from Baltimore"...Merle
At 11:06 PM 4/24/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Savoring one of life's great joys--listening to a JS creation for the first
>time. Surprised to hear Tim Hardin's Lady From Baltimore on Neon Beach.
> Remember hearing Johnny Cash version on TV and radio years back and loved
>it. JS version knocked me out. Bluesman ..........out.
>
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Subj: Re: Tribute tape
Date: 97-04-25
From: t_mstrin@qualcomm.com (Merle Stringfield)
Hi Bob,
I wondered about this myself....I'm planning on doing "18 Wheels" as a
solo, and "Runaway Train" with the band I'm in, Wood N' Nickel. Thanks.
Merle Stringfield, Santee, CA
At 11:24 PM 4/24/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Bloodliners,
>
>It occurred to me that it might be a good idea for those of us planning
>to contribute to the tribute tape to post to the list which of John's
>songs we each would like to record. That way, we can avoid 87 versions
>of "July" or "Daydream Believer." It will allow some of us to adjust
>our choices to prevent repitition. What to you all think?
>
>Bob
>Ft. Worth
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Subj: Re: cassettes
Date: 97-04-25
From: folkera@loopback.com (Ian Shaw - Folk Era Records)
> << Anyway, I don't guess I really expect such a CD. >>
> Oh yes, oh yes, there should be such a CD. Absolutely. Folk Era,
> come in, Folk Era. Howzaboutit?
Well, I know I'd love to see such a CD, (and apparently Dave has begun
spreading a rumor about the Teresa album going to CD with some bonus
songs, so it may happen). What I know though is we're just starting
to fire the big promotional guns on Rough Sketches - coming up with
the radio list, mailing review copies, etc. We've got a couple of
ads placed, and otherwise working our best
to get the word out.
Our design department is also just getting to work on getting Bandera
(called the great folk rock album of the 90's by our esteemed
bloodliner Fred Grittner) ready for a late summer national release.
And after that? Well, we're really into 1998 before we can bring more
stuff out, but you never know what it might be.
All the best!
Sincerely,
Ian
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Ian Shaw Folk Era Records
Publicity & Promotion 705 South Washington
FolkEra@loopback.com Naperville, IL 60540
ph (630) 637-2303 fx (630) 416-7213
Now on the web! http://www.folkera.com
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please note our new area code (630)
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Subj: RE: Tribute tape
Date: 97-04-25
From: rcaplow@decisive.com (Randi Caplow)
RE:
It occurred to me that it might be a good idea for those of us planning
to contribute to the tribute tape to post to the list which of John's
songs we each would like to record.
I'm most likely going to try to do Bad Rats. I doubt there'll be 100
repetitions of that.
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Subj: Cool Folk Music Web Site
Date: 97-04-25
From: Paul4500@aol.com
Hey, everybody...check this out:
http://ww2.audionet.com/jukebox/folk.htm
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Subj: Re: The Latest
Date: 97-04-25
From: cockatoo@bslnet.com (Nancy Talbott)
At 04:13 AM 4/25/97 -0400, DBATTI@aol.com wrote:
>And finally, this is the story I got about Cody...one time in Chadds Ford the
>artist Jamie Wyeth and the songwriter John Stewart decided to court the muses
>together (this was after JS had read Steineck's The Red Pony)....John came up
>with Cody and Jamie came up with the cover to the Willard album...I'd say a
>pretty successful courtin'.
>
>Dave
>
Dave, (aka "Mr. Mom" )
Would that be any relation to Andrew Wyeth?
Wish I could come to Capitola.....got a date yet for summer show at
Anderson's?
Blusey, I hope YOU can make it to summer show in Scottsdale...would love to
meetcha :))))
Nanc
"Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit
salvation?
"...Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have
entertained angels without knowing it..." ~ Hebrews 1:14; 13:2
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Subj: Re: Tribute tape
Date: 97-04-25
From: KShep87309@aol.com
I would like to submit "Bolinas" as a possibility for the Tapes of John.
Also "Midnight Wind" - spectacular!
And as an aside : does anyone remember way back "River of
Freedom"?KShep87309
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Subj: Re: Cody
Date: 97-04-25
From: KShep87309@aol.com
Now c'mon - hey, be nice. John Davidson if he did do Stewart songs was at
least having the discernment and good taste to choose the best! KShep87309
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Subj: Re: Bolinas
Date: 97-04-25
From: KShep87309@aol.com
Dear Michelle, thanks for answering my query about Bolinas personally. I
ache to be out there - I live on the east coast (massachusetts) and it really
is a PAIN. The best thing that's happened here in years was John's
performance in Northampton about one month ago. Again, thanks for the answer
to my question. KShep87309
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Subj: Re: A BUNCH OF NUTS WHO HAPPEN TO BE SERIOUS FOLK MUSICOLOGISTS
Date: 97-04-25
From: KShep87309@aol.com
Wait - wait - what's this about a busload of nuts on 66??? Please -
particulars, please!! The Blue Dream is one I want to follow, or at least
dream about it!! Can someone give some details to KShep87309
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