Bloodlines Mailing List archives April 5-6, 1997
from the John Stewart email list
songbook talk, lots of chat, & the first Salt Lake & McCabe's reports!-REB
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Subj: Learning Guitar Chords
Date: 97-04-05
From: griffter1@webtv.net (Dick Griffith)
Speaking of learning guitar chords...I learned quite a few KT songs from
a booklet published in the early 60's which contained the chords for
Trio songs. The book itself has been gone for 30 years but I can still
play "Chilly Winds"! (The chords are different in John's Pocket Song
Book, however.)
Does anyone else remember this book?
Wish I could join you all in Santa Monica tonight!
Dick (stuck in Chicago again) Griffith
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Subj: Re: Little nothings
Date: 97-04-05
From: ray.butler@dial.pipex.com (Ray Butler)
D&L Ruiz/Peeveyroo wrote:
>
> * Any of you other Bloodliners scattered around the world getting a look
> at the Hale-Bopp comet? I've gotten a few good looks on the rare evenings
> when the clouds lift from over Puget Sound. It's instantly recognizable to
> the naked eye. But thrilling as it is, it is a long way short of casting
> shadows or scaring horses as told in John's wonderful ``An Account of
> Haley's Comet.'' Now THAT must have been a comet. Plus much more poetry in
> the name than ``An Account of Hale-Bopp Comet.''
Maybe, but Hale-Bopp is awesome in the original sense of the word - Very
impressive even in the seriously
street-lit suburbs of Manchester UK (because of light and other pollution you
only get to see about 25 - 30% of
stars etc with the naked eye in most of England)
> * While on that topic, anyone know any other good comet songs? The only
> other I know is Mary-Chapin Carpenter's also-magical ``Haley Came to
> Jackson.''
How about "The Comet, the Course, The Tail" by Peter Hammill ?
Cheers
Ray Butler
Manchester,UK
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Subj: Re: How about a songbook.....
Date: 97-04-05
From: MButters@aol.com
Merle, you made me cry.
What a great list of songbooks and song sheets.
Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I had a *lot* of Trio songbooks in very
good condition. But I started giving them away when I taught guitar lessons
one summer, in college (the blind leading the deaf).
Do I wish I hadn't done that. Oh yeah.
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Subj: Re: Introduction
Date: 97-04-05
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
you wrote:
>Kent,
>
>I'd definitely be for that. < ... > What happened to Minnesota??
>
>Dennis, (Ya sure, don't ya know; talkin Minnesotian)
>
(Boy ... stay off-line for a couple of days and look at all the posts!!!
Must be spring in Stewartista Country!)
Great idea, Dennis. I'll check into opportunities at local venues and let
you know what I find in a few days. We have some fine, semi-intimate places
that would be terrific showcases for John & Darwin's Army ... or John & Dave.
Missouri Bird,
Kent
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Subj: Re: Introduction -Reply
Date: 97-04-05
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
>Hello hello hello all recent arrivals! < ... >
>looking forward to summer,
>
>Jane in Chgo
>
Good point, Jane.
I'll survey the local media scene (music critics and would-be critics) to
see who would recommend which site as the best for JS concert ... and in so
doing, help drum up some word-o'-mouth.
Like you and Dennis, I am very serious about doing this!
Thanks for the encouragement and spirit, most of all.
Missouri Bird,
Kent
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Subj: Re: Mc Cabes Wish List
Date: 97-04-05
From: kkirby@venus.superstore.com (Karen Kirby)
If you are still taking requests, we'd really like to hear
1. Mother Country
2. July
3. Pirates
4. She Believes in Me
at McCabes tonight.
Thanks so much!!
Duncan and Karen
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Subj: Re: Yaw, yuu becha!
Date: 97-04-05
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
>
>Well Luke, I gotta tell 'ya that it has been such a pleasure for me (a lot
>of work, but still a pleasure) to make contact with and fascilitate contact
>between all the Stewartistas. < ... >
>
>Bringin' down the moon,
>Michelle
>
Glad you're having as much fun as we are, Michelle, 'cause it's a bunch o'
work for you, I'm sure.
But, be assured it has become, for some of us some days, the one true
highlight of our day to tap in and see who's around and who is talkin' about
what.
Missouri Bird,
Kent
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Subj: Re: Learning Guitar Chords
Date: 97-04-05
From: RTFAL@aol.com
Dick Griffith wrote:
>I learned quite a few KT songs from a booklet published in the early
>sixteies.....Does anyone else remember this book?
The booklet was named 'Kingston Trio 50 Folk Song Favorites' published by
Hansen Educational Music. I remember it and in fact still have it on a dusty
bookshelf.
I too wish all you in Santa Monica a great night!
Art Faller
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Subj: Re: Martin Guitars & KT influence
Date: 97-04-05
From: markcri@earthlink.net (Mark Erickson)
RMoore1004@aol.com wrote:
>
> This past weekend I went to the Dallas Guitar Show and saw the KingstonTrio
> Anniversary instruments. They're beautifully understated. Each instrument
> (D-28, O-18T, Vega long neck) has "The Kingston Trio - 1957-1997" inlaid on
> the fingerboard, and each has a sticker inside with its number (of 40) andis
> signed by Nick, Bob, John, and George. Being most interested in the banjo, I
> picked it up and examined it (#2 of 40). The neck and rim are beautiful
> quilted maple finished in a transparent charcoal grey. I don't care toomuch
> for the color, but it sounds fantastic! It's actually made by Deering (they
> now own the rights to make Vegas). The price for the set (they only come
> that way) is (are we sitting down?) $12,500!! Maybe if we each chipped in
> $20, we could buy a set for the whole Bloodlines list! I guess I'll just
> have to get a stock banjo from Deering ($2500) or wait for a commemorative to
> come up for sale second-hand.
>
> I've actually had moments when I've tried to calculate whether I could budget
> such a purchase...then I return to reality. That's how strong the Trio's
> influence was on me!
>
> They really were pioneers: the Grammys created a Folk category the year
> after "Tom Dooley;" they were the first pop artists to sell LPs rather than
> singles; they were also among the first pop artists to sell stereo records.
> They pioneered the pop "concert" concept, beginning at colleges, then
> branching out to off-campus venues. They got people to buy guitars & banjos
> and actually participate in making music. The Beatles got many of those same
> people to plug them in. It really bothered me to see their quality slip with
> the move to Decca. Even then, their concerts knocked me out! It also
> bothers me that their importance and influence has been given a back seat to
> PP&M and Dylan. Without the KT, they wouldn't have had a chance!
>
> Well, I've gone on enough. Thought you might like more info in the
> instruments and the ravings of a 50-year-old KT fan.
>
> Bob
Hey Bob, Tell me, why is there not a Kingston Trio page. I too am a 50
year old Trio fan.
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Subj: Re: Mc Cabes Wish List
Date: 97-04-05
From: martink@mindspring.com (L. Kent Martin)
From the rest of us 'Liners 'round the country: Hope McCabe's was as
special as we know it would be.
We'll be expecting a full report ASAP!
Missouri Bird,
Kent
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Subj: Guitar Man
Date: 97-04-05
From: Bluesy33@aol.com
At Willie Nelson's 60th Birthday party, here in Texas a few years back, Bob
Dylan noted that while Willie received wide aclaim for his songwriting and
vocal style, his guitar work was underappreciated. I just love John's guitar
work--from Fire On the Wind to Savannah to Sketches. I've never heard anyone
make a guitar sound the way he does. When you watch him play--the sound
comes out like magic. How do these things happen?
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Subj: Re: Guitar Man
Date: 97-04-05
From: ddunet@concentric.net (Michelle Stevens)
>At Willie Nelson's 60th Birthday party, here in Texas a few years back, Bob
>Dylan noted that while Willie received wide aclaim for his songwriting and
>vocal style, his guitar work was underappreciated. I just love John's guitar
>work--from Fire On the Wind to Savannah to Sketches. I've never heard anyone
>make a guitar sound the way he does. When you watch him play--the sound
>comes out like magic. How do these things happen?
He was raised in the shadow of the angels' wings.
Michelle Luce Stevens
http://www.concentric.net/~Ddunet/ (John Stewart Home Pages)
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Subj: Salt Lake Revisited
Date: 97-04-06
From: earlkctsr489@webtv.net (Earl Knoob)
Greetings from the New Mexico bloodliner temporarily residing on
vacation in Monterey, CA. It took me a week of crusing around CO, UT,
NV & CA, but I finally found a phone line to plug in the webtv box and
file a report on last week's Salt Lake Gig. At the risk of getting run
over by the McCabe's Show -in progress as I write-, I'll fill you in
with the happenings and a set list.
After over 25 years of going to John's Shows in PHX, Colorado, CA and
everyplace else I could find him, I finally got everyone's ulitmate
dream - front row center seats -. The Wooden Dog in SLC is a real nice
venue. They have a proper theatre for concerts so it wasn't your
typical night club setting. After an 8 hour drive from NM, We arrived
about an hour early to assure good seats - in fact we arrived before
John, Buffy and Dave. They rolled in about 45 min. before the show.
(Dave later told me there was a foul up in plane tickets and they almost
didn't make it at all!!!)
John opened with Ticket To The Stars - one of my fav. openers, then
played The River - one that I had requested. After the applause died
down, I piped up "Thanks, John". This brought about some intros back
and forth between us, a question as to whether my wife brought her
saxophone (she didn't to John's relief) and a plug for everyone to join
Bloodlines. The songs continued:
Irresistable Targets
Dreamers On The Rise
Children Of The New Frontier
Across The Milky Way (solo by Buffy)
July Your A Woman
Anna On A Memory (another request by me!)
-unknown title - notes say "Monterey Beach Song - solo by
Buffy" - I remember it was really great though
Homeward Angel (?)- another new one - solo by Buffy
Runaway Fool Of Love - 12 string Rocker!!!!!
At this point John lauched into a bit about Route 66 and asked if any
one had driven it. When I applauded, John determined that I had too
much time on my hands (if he only knew....)
I was now the guy you see in every show who gets picked on by John - it
was great - I haven't laughed so hard in years. Anyway back to the
show:
Cowboy In The Distance -another great new tune
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Subj: Re: Salt Lake Revisited
Date: 97-04-06
From: ClackClack@aol.com
and and and?????
at this point Earl must have "Lost her in the Sun"
C'mon. We're waiting!
Ron
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Subj: Salt Lake Part 2
Date: 97-04-06
From: earlkctsr489@webtv.net (Earl Knoob)
I hate it when I hit the wrong button. The first part got sent before I
got done - so onword with the Salt Lake show List.
Cowboy In The Distance (I think I mentined this one already)
Bringing Down The Moon - duet w/ Buffy
"Angel Marathon" - my title for a wonderful combination of :
Midnight Wind, Dogs Of San Jon, Looking Back Joanna, Wingless Angels,
Seven Angels
All done with the cool assistance of (don't tell
Floyd G) of a subtle drum machine.
During the break I ran to get a copy of the Rough Sketches CD but missed
out by about 30 seconds - I'll mail you a check when I get home, Dave.
Dave came by and asked if it really took 8 hours to get here (it did -
honest)
Second Set.
Strange Rivers
China Sky - never heard this live before - cool!
Spinning Of The World / I've Just Seen A Face - yes - by the
Beatles
The "World Famous Rt 66 Gas Station Story"
Neon Road - killer
Interview With An Angel - with Buffy - of course
Johnny Flamingo On The Blue Dream Road - my favorite new song
Fire In The Wind
Eyes Of Sweet Viginia
new song ("Star In A Black Sky"?)
Ghost Of The Superchief / Pirates Of Stone County Road - A
great combination!!!!
Daydream Believer - monkey time!!!
They Call The Wind Maria - puts Bob Shane's version out in the
weeds.
Encore:
Bolinas - with Buffy
Old Riley - with Banjo!
Twelve Gates To The City - also with banjo
Mother Country
The sound was great. John, as usual, sounded good and got stronger as
the night went on. The guitars sounded great - including the "loaner"
12 string. The old Vega long neck appeared to dislike airplane travel
and had a bit of a tuning problem resulting in a false start for "Old
Riley". But these thing happen.
After the show there was the usual frenzy to scarf up tapes and cd's, a
chance to shake my hero's hand and get a quick snapshot. I hung around
a little longer (too long) and talked guitar tech with John and guarded
the rent a car while Dave loaded the gear. After saying my final
goodbye to John, Buffy and Dave we went our seperate ways.
Easily, the high point of my 2 week vacation was the first day. I'm now
sitting at my mom and dad's place in Monterey Ca wishing I'd brought my
axe with me. I'm full of all kinds of inspiration, with nothing to
play, argh.
John, Buffy & Dave - Thank you so very much from the bottom of my
heart. It was one of the better nights of my life, and as I said the
high point of my vacation.
Oh...... and John, when I get home I promise to give up on the finger
picks. Thanks for the tip.
"infamous" Earl K.
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Subj: Re: McCabe's - First Report
Date: 97-04-06
From: PFARNAM@aol.com
Hi all,
Mott will have the set lists later. Just thought I'd chime in with an
early report.
I've been going to McCabe's to see John for at least ten years, and to the
Palamino for years before that, and I think tonight's show has to be ranked
with the best ever. Two new songs, (for me) Cowboy In The Distance, and a
really new one, for which I have no title, but it was mentioned in the SLC
show as the "Bright Star In A Dark Sky" - a killer song.
Darwin's Army opened for both shows. Watching John play the banjo is truely
magical, as well as mystical. Listening to the folk songs took me back to
the early days of the Trio. It was fun.
During the second set, John enticed Max Kennedy up on the stage to join him
in singing "Daydream Believer". Seeing him on stage started a mighty wave in
me of
"Oh, what might have been!"
Dinner before hand was sparsely attended - only seven folks showed up. Next
time, we'll organize better and sooner. But it was fun anyway. Between
sets, all the Bloodliners trooped upstairs to spend a little time with John &
Buffy. Very special.
I'm sure there will be more, later.
Patrick Farnam
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Subj: Re: Intro from an "Oldest Living Son"
Date: 97-04-06
From: Loboaw@ix.netcom.com (Steve)
Roy Fritz wrote:
>
> Steve,
> I was at that workshop, and remember you and your wife. She was
> INCREDIBLE. As I said to John,
> 'She talks like that!'. She has a most incredible way with words. Who's
> her songwriting partner?
> I didn't have the guts to present my stuff, It was just additional verses
> to one of John's songs.(Evacuation of the Promised Land)
> I paint. I don't write music. And you're right (write) he opened up some
> creativity for me too. I'm originally from
> south Jersey and get down to Philly often - hope we can get together and
> trade tales. How can we get
> JS back to Media?? Do any of the others stay in touch. I'm in Rhode
> Island and need to make some Philly connections.
> JS at the TIN ANGEL?
>
> Roy Fritz
> Barington RI
> royfritz@compuserve.com
Thanks for the memory. Jean's partner is BJ Meaney, who you may
remember as a gregarious woman with bright lipstick and large black hair
who stood up when Jean read her words and yelled across the room that
they had to get together.
The Tin Angel is an upstairs place in Philadelphia which features
acoustical performances. All kinds of folk, jazz, etc., artists appear
there. I'm on their mailing list, hoping some day to see him coming
back.
His workshop in Media, PA, was sponsored by the Delaware Community
College. there were very enthusiastic about the last one (tho John was
very pissed off with their sound technician at the performance he did
there) and he said he'd be willing to come back.
-Steve
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Subj: KT Web Page
Date: 97-04-06
From: MFinleyCS@aol.com
Actually, there is a bit of a KT page. Not much there, but a very nice photo
of Nick, Bob, and George. www.amdest.com/stars/Kingston.html
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Subj: Re: KT Web Page
Date: 97-04-06
From: ClackClack@aol.com
One of these days I'll expand Clack's more to include at least the Stewart
era Trio. Got the discography up at least for now. For those interested in
the Guard era Trio there is a decent site here:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~brento/kingston.html
Ron
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